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Wonder if exporting that mobile SLV is kosher under the MCTR?
China's Space Program News Thread
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Wonder if exporting that mobile SLV is kosher under the MCTR?
AssassinsMace
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I think the chances of exports are rather low. I think it's a show-off message. It's going to be harder for anyone to stop China from launching replacements for satellites destroyed and anti-satellite weapons.
by78
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This according to Jane's is the road-mobile Feitian Emergency Satellite Launch System, intended for quickly launching replacement satellites that are damaged or destroyed in the event of a war. It's designed by CASC, which is the main contractor for the Chinese civilian space program.
Martian
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China ranks second in space technology science publications
"Which countries are making the biggest advances in space technology? US comes first, followed by China
by Sarah Spickernell
October 28, 2014, 6:59pm
(Source: Getty)
When it comes to the number of scientific publications produced each year in the field of space technology, the US comes in first place, followed by China.
A report published recently by the think tank OECD showed that while most countries produced roughly the same world-share of these papers in 2013 as they did in 2003, China has upped its game considerably.
Called “The Space Economy at a Glance 2014”, it revealed how the US produced more than 28 per cent of the papers in 2013, but that this was very similar to its 2003 share. China, meanwhile, produced 22.8 per cent – almost four times greater than its 2003 share.
The UK came in fifth place with 7.2 per cent – marginally behind Germany and France which had 8.2 per cent and 7.4 per cent, respectively.
The UK's 2013 share was slightly ahead of its 2003 share, but not by much. In fact, the only country in the top ten whose share went down over the past ten years was Japan, indicating that the top players in the field of space technology are becoming more established with time.
Which universities published the most?
Broken down by institution, by far the most papers were published by US institutions, with NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies and Cal Tech/NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratories coming in first and second place.
In third place came the Chinese Academy of Sciences, reflecting China's increasing presence in the field in general.
There were few European institutions in the top forty, and none in the UK. Those included were Germany's Deutsches Zentrum fur Luft-Und Raumfahrt and the European Space Research and Technology Centre in the Netherlands.
Below is a list of the top forty institutions in terms of number of peer-reviewed scientific publications over three five-year periods: 1999-2001, 2003-2008 and 2009-2013.
"Which countries are making the biggest advances in space technology? US comes first, followed by China
by Sarah Spickernell
October 28, 2014, 6:59pm
(Source: Getty)
When it comes to the number of scientific publications produced each year in the field of space technology, the US comes in first place, followed by China.
A report published recently by the think tank OECD showed that while most countries produced roughly the same world-share of these papers in 2013 as they did in 2003, China has upped its game considerably.
Called “The Space Economy at a Glance 2014”, it revealed how the US produced more than 28 per cent of the papers in 2013, but that this was very similar to its 2003 share. China, meanwhile, produced 22.8 per cent – almost four times greater than its 2003 share.
The UK came in fifth place with 7.2 per cent – marginally behind Germany and France which had 8.2 per cent and 7.4 per cent, respectively.
The UK's 2013 share was slightly ahead of its 2003 share, but not by much. In fact, the only country in the top ten whose share went down over the past ten years was Japan, indicating that the top players in the field of space technology are becoming more established with time.
Which universities published the most?
Broken down by institution, by far the most papers were published by US institutions, with NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies and Cal Tech/NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratories coming in first and second place.
In third place came the Chinese Academy of Sciences, reflecting China's increasing presence in the field in general.
There were few European institutions in the top forty, and none in the UK. Those included were Germany's Deutsches Zentrum fur Luft-Und Raumfahrt and the European Space Research and Technology Centre in the Netherlands.
Below is a list of the top forty institutions in terms of number of peer-reviewed scientific publications over three five-year periods: 1999-2001, 2003-2008 and 2009-2013.
Surprised this hasn't been posted
Looks like they are at a stage where Long March 9 is openly discussed by state media now
New space launcher is in planning
Updated: 2014-12-08 07:38
By Zhao Lei(China Daily USA)
Long March-9 expected to raise nation's capability for space expeditions
China is conducting preliminary research on a super-heavy launch vehicle that will be used in its manned missions to the moon.
"We are discussing the technological feasibility and requirements of the Long March-9, and research on the solutions to some technical difficulties have started," said Li Tongyu, head of aerospace products at the China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology. "Its specifications will mostly be determined by a host of factors, including the government's space plan and the nation's overall industrial capability, as well as its engine's development."
The Long March-9's diameter and height will be much larger than those of the Long March-5, and its thrust will also be much stronger, he said.
"Our current launch vehicles, including the Long March-5, which is set to conduct its first launch soon, will be able to undertake the country's space activities planned for the coming 10 years, but for the nation's long-term space programs, their capabilities will not be enough," he added, emphasizing the necessity and significance of a super-heavy rocket.
"In addition, the cryogenic engine using liquid hydrogen fuel and liquid oxygen oxidizer (designed for the Long March-5) is not powerful enough for the Long March-9, so we need to develop a brand new engine for it to make sure the rocket has sufficient thrust."
Li's academy belongs to China Aerospace Science and Technology Corp, one of the major undertakers of China's space activities. It is also the leading space launch vehicle developer in China, producing all of the nation's strategic missiles and the Long March rocket family.
Li Jinghong, deputy chief designer of the Long March-3A at the academy, said estimates show the Long March-5 will have to use four launches to fulfill a manned mission to the moon while the Long March-9 will need only one.
The senior engineer noted that manned lunar missions will not be the sole use of the Long March-9, hinting that other deep-space exploration projects will also need the super-heavy vehicle.
"The diameter of the Long March-9 should be 8 to 10 meters, and its weight at launch should be at least 3,000 metric tons," he said.
According to an earlier report by China News Service, Liang Xiaohong, deputy head of the China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology, disclosed that the Long March-9 is planned to have a maximum payload of 130 tons and its first launch will take place around 2028.
Liang urged the government to include the Long March-9's development in its space agenda as soon as possible so that China's rocket technologies will not lag behind those of other space powers.
Once the Long March-9 is developed and put into service, China will be able to go deeper into space, as it has begun to draw an ambitious blueprint for exploration beyond the moon.
The China National Space Administration has started preliminary research for the Mars exploration program and is persuading the government to include the project into the country's space agenda, according to Tian Yulong, secretary-general of the administration.
In November, China made public a prototype of its Mars rover at an air show in Zhuhai, Guangdong province.
Peng Tao, a space expert at the China Academy of Space Technology, the nation's leading developer of spacecraft, said at the exhibition that the country plans to conduct a Mars mission around 2020, which will include orbiting, landing and roaming operations by an unmanned probe.
An earlier nOn official CGI comparing notional LM-9 with SLS block II (and LM-5 and SLS block I)
Looks like they are at a stage where Long March 9 is openly discussed by state media now
New space launcher is in planning
Updated: 2014-12-08 07:38
By Zhao Lei(China Daily USA)
Long March-9 expected to raise nation's capability for space expeditions
China is conducting preliminary research on a super-heavy launch vehicle that will be used in its manned missions to the moon.
"We are discussing the technological feasibility and requirements of the Long March-9, and research on the solutions to some technical difficulties have started," said Li Tongyu, head of aerospace products at the China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology. "Its specifications will mostly be determined by a host of factors, including the government's space plan and the nation's overall industrial capability, as well as its engine's development."
The Long March-9's diameter and height will be much larger than those of the Long March-5, and its thrust will also be much stronger, he said.
"Our current launch vehicles, including the Long March-5, which is set to conduct its first launch soon, will be able to undertake the country's space activities planned for the coming 10 years, but for the nation's long-term space programs, their capabilities will not be enough," he added, emphasizing the necessity and significance of a super-heavy rocket.
"In addition, the cryogenic engine using liquid hydrogen fuel and liquid oxygen oxidizer (designed for the Long March-5) is not powerful enough for the Long March-9, so we need to develop a brand new engine for it to make sure the rocket has sufficient thrust."
Li's academy belongs to China Aerospace Science and Technology Corp, one of the major undertakers of China's space activities. It is also the leading space launch vehicle developer in China, producing all of the nation's strategic missiles and the Long March rocket family.
Li Jinghong, deputy chief designer of the Long March-3A at the academy, said estimates show the Long March-5 will have to use four launches to fulfill a manned mission to the moon while the Long March-9 will need only one.
The senior engineer noted that manned lunar missions will not be the sole use of the Long March-9, hinting that other deep-space exploration projects will also need the super-heavy vehicle.
"The diameter of the Long March-9 should be 8 to 10 meters, and its weight at launch should be at least 3,000 metric tons," he said.
According to an earlier report by China News Service, Liang Xiaohong, deputy head of the China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology, disclosed that the Long March-9 is planned to have a maximum payload of 130 tons and its first launch will take place around 2028.
Liang urged the government to include the Long March-9's development in its space agenda as soon as possible so that China's rocket technologies will not lag behind those of other space powers.
Once the Long March-9 is developed and put into service, China will be able to go deeper into space, as it has begun to draw an ambitious blueprint for exploration beyond the moon.
The China National Space Administration has started preliminary research for the Mars exploration program and is persuading the government to include the project into the country's space agenda, according to Tian Yulong, secretary-general of the administration.
In November, China made public a prototype of its Mars rover at an air show in Zhuhai, Guangdong province.
Peng Tao, a space expert at the China Academy of Space Technology, the nation's leading developer of spacecraft, said at the exhibition that the country plans to conduct a Mars mission around 2020, which will include orbiting, landing and roaming operations by an unmanned probe.
An earlier nOn official CGI comparing notional LM-9 with SLS block II (and LM-5 and SLS block I)
Even more...
Looks like the next phase is going to start soon. LM-5 will signal this next round of launches and development.
China Exclusive: Countdown to China's new space programs begins
(Source: Xinhua) 2014-12-07
BEIJING, Dec. 7 (Xinhua) -- China hopes to put a rover on Mars around 2020, complete a manned space station around 2022 and test a heavy carrier rocket around 2030, a top space scientist revealed Sunday.
Lei Fanpei, chairman of the China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation (CASC), the main contractor for the space program, revealed the details in an interview with Xinhua after the launch of CBERS-4, a satellite jointly developed with Brazil, from the Taiyuan base, by a Long March-4B rocket.
It was the 200th flight of the Long March variants since April 1970 when a Long March-1 carried China's first satellite, Dongfanghong-1, into space.
MARS PROBE 2020
A feasibility study on the country's first Mars mission is completed and the goal is now to send an orbiter and rover to Mars.
There has been no official announcement about a Mars probe yet, but Lei expects a Long March-5 carrier, still at the development stage, to take the orbiter into a Martian orbit around 2020 from a new launch site on south China's island province of Hainan.
China's space scientists have had their eyes on the Red Planet as their next destination since the successful soft landing on the moon late last year.
Last month, an actual-size model of a possible Mars rover was on display at Airshow China 2014, the first glimpse of how the vehicle might turn out.
China made an unsuccessful attempt to reach Mars in 2011 aboard a Russian rocket, but failed to complete the mission because of an accident during orbital transfer.
SPACE STATION 2022
China's manned space station program is progressing steadily. Various modules, vehicles and ground facilities are nearing readiness.
Development and manufacture of major space products are at key stages, including the second space lab Tiangong-2, the Tianzhou-1 cargo ship, Long March-7 rockets and Shenzhou-11 spacecraft. The core module and two space labs will be tested soon, Lei said.
A new launch center in Hainan, the fourth after Taiyuan, Jiuquan and Xichang, is almost complete and can already launch some spacecraft.
The Tiangong-2 space lab will be launched around 2016 along with the Shenzhou-11 spacecraft and Tianzhou-1 cargo ship. Around 2018, a core experimental module for the station will be put in place.
By around 2022, China's first orbiting space station should be completed. It will consist of three parts -- a core module attached to two labs, each weighing about 20 tonnes.
Tiangong-1 was launched in September 2011. In June 2012, the Shenzhou-9 executed the first manual space docking with Tiangong-1, another essential step in building a space station.
HEAVY ROCKET
A powerful carrier rocket is essential for a manned moon landing.
"We hope to make breakthroughs within four or five years on design and key technology for the heavy carrier, a solid foundation for developing such a rocket," he said.
Breakthroughs are needed on the overall design of the rocket, including development of a 460 tonne thrust liquid oxygen and kerosene engine and a 220 tonne liquid hydrogen engine.
"We hope to finish all these within the next 15 years, so the heavy rocket will make its first maiden flight sometime around 2030," Lei said
The rocket is envisaged as having a payload capacity of 130 tonnes to low Earth orbit. Once in service, it will help with missions between 2030 and 2050, and secure China's position in terms of space exploration and technology.
Editor:Zhang Tao
Looks like the next phase is going to start soon. LM-5 will signal this next round of launches and development.
China Exclusive: Countdown to China's new space programs begins
(Source: Xinhua) 2014-12-07
BEIJING, Dec. 7 (Xinhua) -- China hopes to put a rover on Mars around 2020, complete a manned space station around 2022 and test a heavy carrier rocket around 2030, a top space scientist revealed Sunday.
Lei Fanpei, chairman of the China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation (CASC), the main contractor for the space program, revealed the details in an interview with Xinhua after the launch of CBERS-4, a satellite jointly developed with Brazil, from the Taiyuan base, by a Long March-4B rocket.
It was the 200th flight of the Long March variants since April 1970 when a Long March-1 carried China's first satellite, Dongfanghong-1, into space.
MARS PROBE 2020
A feasibility study on the country's first Mars mission is completed and the goal is now to send an orbiter and rover to Mars.
There has been no official announcement about a Mars probe yet, but Lei expects a Long March-5 carrier, still at the development stage, to take the orbiter into a Martian orbit around 2020 from a new launch site on south China's island province of Hainan.
China's space scientists have had their eyes on the Red Planet as their next destination since the successful soft landing on the moon late last year.
Last month, an actual-size model of a possible Mars rover was on display at Airshow China 2014, the first glimpse of how the vehicle might turn out.
China made an unsuccessful attempt to reach Mars in 2011 aboard a Russian rocket, but failed to complete the mission because of an accident during orbital transfer.
SPACE STATION 2022
China's manned space station program is progressing steadily. Various modules, vehicles and ground facilities are nearing readiness.
Development and manufacture of major space products are at key stages, including the second space lab Tiangong-2, the Tianzhou-1 cargo ship, Long March-7 rockets and Shenzhou-11 spacecraft. The core module and two space labs will be tested soon, Lei said.
A new launch center in Hainan, the fourth after Taiyuan, Jiuquan and Xichang, is almost complete and can already launch some spacecraft.
The Tiangong-2 space lab will be launched around 2016 along with the Shenzhou-11 spacecraft and Tianzhou-1 cargo ship. Around 2018, a core experimental module for the station will be put in place.
By around 2022, China's first orbiting space station should be completed. It will consist of three parts -- a core module attached to two labs, each weighing about 20 tonnes.
Tiangong-1 was launched in September 2011. In June 2012, the Shenzhou-9 executed the first manual space docking with Tiangong-1, another essential step in building a space station.
HEAVY ROCKET
A powerful carrier rocket is essential for a manned moon landing.
"We hope to make breakthroughs within four or five years on design and key technology for the heavy carrier, a solid foundation for developing such a rocket," he said.
Breakthroughs are needed on the overall design of the rocket, including development of a 460 tonne thrust liquid oxygen and kerosene engine and a 220 tonne liquid hydrogen engine.
"We hope to finish all these within the next 15 years, so the heavy rocket will make its first maiden flight sometime around 2030," Lei said
The rocket is envisaged as having a payload capacity of 130 tonnes to low Earth orbit. Once in service, it will help with missions between 2030 and 2050, and secure China's position in terms of space exploration and technology.
Editor:Zhang Tao
broadsword
Brigadier
That will be 13 years after the SLS, which will have its first flight in 2017. China seems content to plod along.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
That is assuming SLS actually is allowed to go full cycle. There are other better programs in the US. SLS is more a relic
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