TerraN_EmpirE
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ISS Life Expectancy is now 2028, and if they invest in it there is no reason that should be the end.
China's Space Program News Thread
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AssassinsMace
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Obama is only going to be in office until 2016. Now with the Christie scandal chances are Hillary if she runs is going to win. Hillary along with Obama according to Robert Gates were all on the same page on China. So that's another 4 to 8 years that a Democrat can't change anything significant with the US/China relationship without looking weak for Republicans to exploit. Give another few years after it's okayed by a willing US President elected and that's past the scheduled service of the ISS. So China should stop with the begging to be on the ISS because it will never happen.
TerraN_EmpirE
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Mace there is no evidence of Clinton or Christie putting there name in the ring yet, And if they did Hillary has Bengazi hung around her neck, A good rehash of the Hillary Clinton 3 Am phone call commercial could nail her coffin. Speaking of which She is not in the physical condition she needs to be. as to Christie his poll numbers are pretty good. the scandal is thin.
So lets not Go placing bets on Who will be president just yet.
The ISS has a infrastructure in the building and failing that there is the possibility of a successor. getting the PRC in is smart
everyone knows Beijing has Ambitions for a space station. Getting them talking even if it fails is a smart move.
So lets not Go placing bets on Who will be president just yet.
The ISS has a infrastructure in the building and failing that there is the possibility of a successor. getting the PRC in is smart
everyone knows Beijing has Ambitions for a space station. Getting them talking even if it fails is a smart move.
Your keywords are "if they invest" .
TerraN_EmpirE
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yes Lion but not necessarily China. "They" could be Nasa Or the ESA or Private industry that's for the ISS.
there is so much anti china hostility from US govt it's just a waste of time to even discuss anything. the Chinese and American space programs should go there own separate ways and not collaborate. china is behind but they have built up a good foundation and developing their own capabilities at their own pace. it doesn't matter if it takes them longer they are not in a race with anyone. there is too much ill will from the US, so china should cooperate with everyone else except them.
Equation
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I doubt ESA, they're more short in cash than NASA, so private companies is a possible.
Equation
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I like said before, it's AL ABOUT THE PROGRAM. If you got a team of dedicated, talented scientists, and excellent funding to keep the program running, you can pretty much do anything.
AssassinsMace
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I think that recent gathering of space-faring countries also contributed to the opening to this discussion. Which means it could also just be the politically correct thing to say given the context. Even though there are those that just accuse China of stealing everything they know, it's probably important to make everyone believe that countries need them in order to go into space. China going at it alone serves against that message.
The same mentality with stealth fighters. Why didn't Japan and South Korea carry out their own stealth programs? Because they didn't need one being an ally of the US. But now since China revealed a stealth fighter, they now are behind and playing catch-up. If the US had a realistic relationship towards China from the beginning maybe China today would be as dependent on the US as Japan and South Korea.
The media is making it out that Japan is now the counter to China in Africa due to Abe's recent African tour. Like Abe is going to have an African policy that doesn't get the US's okay? How does that make Japan an alternative to China? Just because it's a Japanese face and not the one of their historical colonial master, that makes all the difference? Another big mistake.
That's why China should look at the future where Chinese aren't going to get it done if they don't do it themselves. Back during the Cold War it was a big plus to climb up the West's ladder to the top. In today's world if you're still just a Cold War lackey, you're going lose the most because other competing countries are building their own ladders to climb their way to the top while you have to fight and bite past someone else above you and knock back those below on a crowded ladder to begin with.
The same mentality with stealth fighters. Why didn't Japan and South Korea carry out their own stealth programs? Because they didn't need one being an ally of the US. But now since China revealed a stealth fighter, they now are behind and playing catch-up. If the US had a realistic relationship towards China from the beginning maybe China today would be as dependent on the US as Japan and South Korea.
The media is making it out that Japan is now the counter to China in Africa due to Abe's recent African tour. Like Abe is going to have an African policy that doesn't get the US's okay? How does that make Japan an alternative to China? Just because it's a Japanese face and not the one of their historical colonial master, that makes all the difference? Another big mistake.
That's why China should look at the future where Chinese aren't going to get it done if they don't do it themselves. Back during the Cold War it was a big plus to climb up the West's ladder to the top. In today's world if you're still just a Cold War lackey, you're going lose the most because other competing countries are building their own ladders to climb their way to the top while you have to fight and bite past someone else above you and knock back those below on a crowded ladder to begin with.
There is much less "ill" from the US towards china now then there was from the US towards the USSR in 1975, and yet the US cooperated with USSR in the Apollo-Soyuz mission. The issue is not cooperation itself. It is whether the US believed the partner stands to gain at the expense of the US technologically or politically.
If ISS goes down without a replacement, and the Chinese have a station up there, then I think there would be little choice for the US but to countenance some degree of cooperation with Chinese manned program, because otherwise the US would freeze itself out of most other international collaborative manned space ventures.
The fantasy of manned mars and manned moon missions not withstanding, I think vast majority of manned space endeavors, solo or collaborative, over the next 20-30 years or more will be flights to manned orbital facilities.
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