China's Space Program News Thread

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NikeX

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GOOD. I'm glad you don't dispute this point.


WTF are you talking about, "thinly veiled"? What about any of those goals were presented as thinly veiled? A manned space program is not absolutely necessary to "basic science" research. It is always far more about subjects much more down to earth, and you're incorrect in your thinking if you think that the US and the Soviet Union didn't have exactly the same motivations that China has now for its manned space program: as I said, geopolitical, military, technological, and in the case of the manned lunar program, possible economic gains. Nothing to veil here, and the fact that you read "thinly veiled" into my post speaks volumes about what goes on inside your head. Problem?

Regarding your point about the Chinese space program, it seems that the military portion of China's program plays a heavy hand in the overall direction of the space program.

This is what I believe is at work in China choosing goals in space. Planetary exploration has no clear military purpose where LEO and Lunar do have military implications. Do you agree?

@escobar: I notice that the Chinese follow Russian procedure in having their returned space travelers sit during the adjustment to normal gravity. It will be interesting to see how quickly China advances its knowledge of the human body in micro gravity and in future missions emphasizes in orbit conditioning to speed the transition back to the 1-gee environment
 
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Mysterre

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I have never called you a name and I expect the same respect in turn. You should be able to state your point without the childish name calling of saying someone is an "idiot" just because they do not follow in lock step with your opinion.
I didn't call you any names. The namecalling was conditional on you (or anyone else) not being able to admit that the US and Soviet programs had the same motivations China's does now.

That being said regarding your point about the Chinese space program, it seems that the military portion of China's program plays a heavy hand in the overall direction of the space program.

This is what I believe is at work in China choosing goals in space. Planetary exploration has no clear military purpose where LEO and Lunar do have military implications. Do you agree?
I find it rather preposterous to be asked to agree on something that I've already explicitly stated. Twice. As if you're trying to wring some kind of begrudging point that you think is "thinly veiled" and we somehow don't want to admit to, but you are the one to expose things with your keen intellect. ROFLMAO!

How about you agreeing that the American manned spaced program had "military implications", eh?
 
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NikeX

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But when it come to Shenzhou 9... you get 1/100 of the news coverage, and when you do, most of them will be sure to mention that China is 60 years behind US, and China's space program is CLOSELY connect with their military, and China's space program is base on technology from Russia etc...

Yep, don't you love our "free media" or what?

Well Shenzhou 9 may be big news in China but for the rest of the world its been there done that. Regarding the first woman in space don't forget that the first woman in space was Valentina Vladimirovna Tereshkova in 1963. It takes alot to impress people today

But enjoy your success of Shenzhou 9. Its China's success. You don't need others to fawn over what you accomplished in this mission. Enjoy and look forward to the next missions!
 

Lion

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Well Shenzhou 9 may be big news in China but for the rest of the world its been there done that. Regarding the first woman in space don't forget that the first woman in space was Valentina Vladimirovna Tereshkova in 1963. It takes alot to impress people today

But enjoy your success of Shenzhou 9. Its China's success. You don't need others to fawn over what you accomplished in this mission. Enjoy and look forward to the next missions!



We don't need others to fawn over what we accomplished. You assume we think that way, do you?
 

escobar

Brigadier
According to the pilot of the lead helicopter(recovery team) due to the strong seasonal winds at high altitudes above the prairie of Inner Mongolia, the capsulelanded about 16km southeast of the theoretical point of contact, but they have followed the descent of the capsule and the first helicopter landed next to the capsule 2 minutes after it touched down. While this deviation is large, he says the capsule fell into the recovery 36 x 36 km area.

He then relates with a laugh that just as his helicopter landed, he saw a shepherds in car trying to approach the capsule, he unfortunately had to prohibit it.

On June 29th at 13:13, his helicopter took off again with a communication helicopter and three other whith the three astronauts in the direction of a military airport. At 14h, the five helicopters arrive at the airport where a PAAF Boeing 737 is already waiting on the tarmac to bring the three astronauts in Beijing. The helicopters then returned to their base in Inner Mongolia.
 

NikeX

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I find it rather preposterous to be asked to agree on something that I've already explicited stated. Twice. As if you're trying to wring some kind of begrudging point that you think is "thinly veiled" and we somehow don't want to admit to, but you are the one to expose things with your keen intellect. ROFLMAO!

How about you agreeing that the American manned spaced program also had "military implications", eh?

For the most point the American space program was and is different from the military program. And like I said planetary exploration has no military value what so ever. I challenge you to tell me the military value of a mission to Venus or Mars. Some things are just pure science. Don't tell me you wouldn't like to see a mission to explore Europa and determine if there is life under all that ice.

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We don't need others to fawn over what we accomplished. You assume we think that way, do you?

I sure hope not. The comment about CBS covering the Shenzhou 9 sure made it look like you needed outside validation. I just say enjoy the moment and continue to move forward
 

escobar

Brigadier
TG-1 conducted an orbital maneuver and reached an orbit of 370km

[video=youtube;nk-V9NsKUKQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk-V9NsKUKQ[/video]
 

escobar

Brigadier
the Yuan Wang ships deployed so far in the Pacific Ocean, will go back to port.

[video=youtube;ZT6xUx13o7w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT6xUx13o7w[/video]
 

escobar

Brigadier
The capsule arrived in Beijing by rail around 18h ​​local time and will be returned to the headquarters of CAST, where it was conceived.


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