China's SCS Strategy Thread

manqiangrexue

manqiangrexue

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Mr T said:
Why, are you going to bundle me into a black van at night and disappear me to China where I can be put on trial for "hurting the feelings of 1.4 billion people"?
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Are you in the US? Cus you just have to say you don't like police brutality for that to happen to you in America. But no, he means that your life is just going to suck, disappointment after disappointment if you think you can talk China out of rising, and rising its own way.

Mr T said:
I honestly find it sad that you take a view that the strong are justified in doing what they want and everyone else gets pushed around. That's classic bully talk, plus it justifies China's treatment when it suffered defeats or atrocities in the past.
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I honestly find it sad that at this point, you still don't understand that you can't twist logic and fool this crowd into thinking that China is evil and the West is righteous.

Justified or not, it happened. Now that China's on top, it's not justified? Oh wait, Western nations start wars in the middle east all the time with countries that aren't strong enough to fight back. That's justified, right?

Mr T said:
Your ancestors must be spinning in their graves.
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For satisfaction seeing their country evolve into a power far mightier than any that had once attacked and disparaged it? Your ancestors must be quite active down there too; hell, if the UK was in any worse shape, they'd all pop out of the ground and you'd have real authentic Halloween! Once the British Empire touted themselves as the supreme race and that the more Brits there are, the more land occupied by the Queen's Army, the better the world is. Now, it's a small country notorious for bad weather and worse food, kissing the rear end of the former colony it took an ass-whooping from and languishing away telling stronger nations they once bullied that bullying is wrong LOL
 
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Breadbox

Breadbox

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manqiangrexue said:
Are you in the US? Cus you just have to say you don't like police brutality for that to happen to you in America. But no, he means that your life is just going to suck, disappointment after disappointment if you think you can talk China out of rising, and rising its own way.


I honestly find it sad that at this point, you still don't understand that you can't twist logic and fool this crowd into thinking that China is evil and the West is righteous.

Justified or not, it happened. Now that China's on top, it's not justified? Oh wait, Western nations start wars in the middle east all the time with countries that aren't strong enough to fight back. That's justified, right?


For satisfaction seeing their country evolve into a power far mightier than any that had once attacked and disparaged it? Your ancestors must be quite active down there too; hell, if the UK was in any worse shape, they'd all pop out of the ground and you'd have real authentic Halloween! Once the British Empire touted themselves as the supreme race and that the more Brits there are, the more land occupied by the Queen's Army, the better the world is. Now, it's a small country notorious for bad weather and worse food, kissing the rear end of the former colony it took an ass-whooping from and languishing away telling stronger nations they once bullied that bullying is wrong LOL
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Probably the worst thing about this is the UK never shut up about problems that would never have existed if not for it.
 
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Japhethsdecendent

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How did this become about china's nukes? Only a moron thinks counter insurgency is at all comparable to a large scale conflict that military's are designed for. I like how the narrative goes from the US is not a threat and we can beat them to it's a massive threat that they are even on this side of the pacific. Which is it? As to the type-55, it's not proven and there are only a few of them now. Burkes and ticos have been around for decades and have set the standard and have been proven in many respects, not to mention flight 3 near and the surface combatant gap will grow again, not to mention there are well over 70 burkes and ticos. I am not aware of how type 55 can for sure put itself above burkes and ticos other than it's antiship missiles are weaker with harpoon until LRASM comes in a few years. As to LRASM it's range is estimated from 5-800km and it's guidance is the most advanced able to coordinate multiple missiles on multiple flight paths at the same time and find and identify it's target without 3rd party help. Add to that it's stealth meaning it will be far less likely to be intercepted before it gets to the target area and depending on how well it works maybe not being seen until too late with just tone shot. I wouldn't call that worthless and is a unique capability. Hypersonic missiles can be intercepted at long range from sm-3, or in terminal phase by sm-6 or sm-2. Depending on how slow the warhead is going at that point maybe even essm may be useful.

As for the zumwalt it is the only stealth ship with the signature of a fishing boat. That loitering at sea lobing missiles out of nowhere isn't a bad capability to have. Lets not forget the US has 19 carriers 11 of which are supercarriers and many able to launch f-35s. I like how you admit your country can't create the lifestyle many want, if that's the case you already lost. Other nations know who will treat them better and it's evidenced by the circle around chinas coast, and increasingly india. You are just asking for pain thats all there is down this path, I don't dismiss enemy capabilities I just look at them realistically. I also am not jonesing for a war because I have something to prove and am trying to compensate. Are you one of the propaganda army paid to make posts online? You are surrounded in your pen of hostile islands come out with your hands up lol.
 
Nobonita Barua

Nobonita Barua

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Lol, love the lil American dream of our lil leader. Though I doubt little island friends would help our leader to keep Guam & Hawaii.
I heard weather in gulf of Mexico is very pleasant. If I had a nuclear submarine, I would certainly visit there. Of course, in the "international water ". Would love to greet Texans there. Heard it's very close. Russians do that a lot.
I see why our lil leader is "very concerned " about the chain.
Freedom is having very nervous time folks. I am telling ya.
Here comes our government. Let's see how long he can keep the States United.
 
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ericlfh

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The bigger war that is going happens to counter the threat of China is just an imagination cooked up by USA, just like WMD in Iraq. So now the excuse for war in Iran shifted from WMD to 'preventing barbarian from becoming worse barbarian'? This is more imaginative than the original WMD is. Anything that USA did is justified just they are USA, also because of US worshipping idiots. F
 
manqiangrexue

manqiangrexue

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Japhethsdecendent said:
Only china is dumb enough to fight a major war by itself and start it for bragging rights? Even the US doesn't outright seize territory like that. You are trying to convince yourselves you aren't fooling anybody else. Iraq and afghanistan are small ball compared to that war is being threatened but at least its a war in the US wheel house and not trying to turn savages into anything other than savages. Unless you are going to bring pakistan and kim jong un with you? I don't want to see the blood of little princes spilled because pooh bear has a small wang and feels inferior. Don't get me wrong I am trying to help you chicoms. You are just a tool for some stranger ready to send you into a meat grinder. If the ccp feels it's rule is threatened it will take what little dignity the chinese have and ask hong kongers about that. But if I were some crazy communist robot and there was no way I was going to give up I would at least back pedal and try to lull others into false security.
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The only way your pathetic LRASM might hit a Chinese ship is if Chinese CIWS see it slowly approach and their systems freeze because they can't figure out what imbecile would try to lob what appears to be a miniature Cessna at it. America's so behind that when China took our railgun to sea the US just gave up and said they'll just make new ammunition for conventional guns and that'll have to be good enough. Your entire math Olympiad team is Chinese; almost all your engineers are Chinese. Now that China's warmed up, you've got no chance and the sooner you accept it, the easier it will be for you.

Forget about talking about war. Your chicken shit country doesn't fight anybody more than a small backwards nation with a GDP the size of Walmart. America backed down from Russia when it seized Georgian territory and again when it took apart Ukraine. America does nothing but sail in circles and curse as China does what it wants and builds in the SCS. America doesn't even dare fight North Korea because North Korea has nukes and when Iran gets nukes, that's no-go territory too. And who can blame you? Your military's so incompetent they have accidentally wrecked more jets and suffered more ship fires this year than India. US fight a war? LOL Not with China... maybe with Tunisia if they found oil or something...
 
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Once BRI officially kicks in. China's reliance on SCS as transit point for oil and energy supplies will be over. Their 'SCS naval blackade' and choking Malacca strait will be worthless. Then you americans will be allowed to play your FON operations card in SCS all you want.
 
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