The world knows, but the western "freepress" MSM delibrately omitting this information to continue to guide their government's official position to make China out as the bad guy in this dispute.
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The world knows, but the western "freepress" MSM delibrately omitting this information to continue to guide their government's official position to make China out as the bad guy in this dispute.
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Jura The idiot
General
Yesterday at 9:11 PM
News from Shangri-La: What China said; Shot’s across Trump’s bow; Reactions; Transcripts galore News from Shangri-La: What China said; Shot’s across Trump’s bow; Reactions; Transcripts galore
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Wei has his say: China’s defense minister finally had his turn on stage at the on Sunday, and after listening to the United States scold China for two days, Gen. Wei Fenghe came prepared with Beijing’s own perspective — or what many later called pure propaganda — on a long list of contentious issues between the two powers.
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On the South China Sea: In short, China’s not expanding because the land is already theirs, and so you can’t say they’re militarizing when they’re just building defensive bases on their own land — that’s the line Wei stuck with. “The problem, however, is that in recent years some countries outside the region come to the South China Sea to flex muscles, in the name of freedom of navigation.”
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News from Shangri-La: What China said; Shot’s across Trump’s bow; Reactions; Transcripts galore News from Shangri-La: What China said; Shot’s across Trump’s bow; Reactions; Transcripts galore
:
Wei has his say: China’s defense minister finally had his turn on stage at the on Sunday, and after listening to the United States scold China for two days, Gen. Wei Fenghe came prepared with Beijing’s own perspective — or what many later called pure propaganda — on a long list of contentious issues between the two powers.
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On the South China Sea: In short, China’s not expanding because the land is already theirs, and so you can’t say they’re militarizing when they’re just building defensive bases on their own land — that’s the line Wei stuck with. “The problem, however, is that in recent years some countries outside the region come to the South China Sea to flex muscles, in the name of freedom of navigation.”
Jura The idiot
General
now I read the following in Facebook
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Where there are threats, there are defenses: Chinese defense minister on South China Sea
Chinese State Councilor and Defense Minister Wei Fenghe said here on Saturday that China's construction on its South China Sea islands and reefs is its legitimate right and is purely defensive in nature.
"The current situation in the South China Sea is improving towards greater stability. It is attributed to the common efforts of the countries in the region," Wei said. "However, there are always people trying to rake in profits by stirring up troubles in the region."
He said over 100,000 ships sail through the South China Sea each year, and "none has been threatened."
However, in recent years, some countries outside the region come to the South China Sea to flex muscles, in the name of freedom of navigation. "The large-scale force projection and offensive operations in the region are the most serious destabilizing and uncertain factors in the South China Sea," he said.
If there is chaos in the South China Sea, the regional countries are the ones who will bear the brunt, and China and the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) countries have made progress in negotiating the Code of Conduct in the South China Sea, he added.
Wei noted that China's construction on its South China Sea islands and reefs is legitimate and defensive in nature. "It is the legitimate right of a sovereign state to carry out construction on its own territory. China built limited defense facilities on the islands and reefs for self-defense," he said.
"Where there are threats, there are defenses. In the face of heavily armed warships and military aircraft, how can we stay impervious and not build some defense facilities?" he asked.
He also refuted the saying of "militarization" of China's defensive construction on its South China Sea islands and reefs at the Q&A session. "Anyone who has some military sense would know it's not militarization," he said.
Wei is here to attend the 18th Shangri-La Dialogue from Friday to Sunday, and he gave a keynote speech on Sunday morning at a plenary session entitled "China and International Security Cooperation."
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Where there are threats, there are defenses: Chinese defense minister on South China Sea
Chinese State Councilor and Defense Minister Wei Fenghe said here on Saturday that China's construction on its South China Sea islands and reefs is its legitimate right and is purely defensive in nature.
"The current situation in the South China Sea is improving towards greater stability. It is attributed to the common efforts of the countries in the region," Wei said. "However, there are always people trying to rake in profits by stirring up troubles in the region."
He said over 100,000 ships sail through the South China Sea each year, and "none has been threatened."
However, in recent years, some countries outside the region come to the South China Sea to flex muscles, in the name of freedom of navigation. "The large-scale force projection and offensive operations in the region are the most serious destabilizing and uncertain factors in the South China Sea," he said.
If there is chaos in the South China Sea, the regional countries are the ones who will bear the brunt, and China and the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) countries have made progress in negotiating the Code of Conduct in the South China Sea, he added.
Wei noted that China's construction on its South China Sea islands and reefs is legitimate and defensive in nature. "It is the legitimate right of a sovereign state to carry out construction on its own territory. China built limited defense facilities on the islands and reefs for self-defense," he said.
"Where there are threats, there are defenses. In the face of heavily armed warships and military aircraft, how can we stay impervious and not build some defense facilities?" he asked.
He also refuted the saying of "militarization" of China's defensive construction on its South China Sea islands and reefs at the Q&A session. "Anyone who has some military sense would know it's not militarization," he said.
Wei is here to attend the 18th Shangri-La Dialogue from Friday to Sunday, and he gave a keynote speech on Sunday morning at a plenary session entitled "China and International Security Cooperation."
Lethe
Captain
Taiwan is a real strategic problem for China, insofar as in time is on China's side and therefore China's foremost strategic objective in the short- and even medium-term must be to avoid what could well be a losing conflict with dire implications for China's future progress and prosperity. The problem is that the US knows that China will wish to avoid a conflict as well. The most ruthless of American strategists would be advocating for a war with China now, while it can still be won. And this is why Taiwan is a problem, in that there are certain provocations China could not ignore, e.g. basing of American forces on Taiwan. A suitably ruthless American administration will seek to provoke China to a war it cannot win. One should not be naïve enough to imagine that such ruthless figures do not or could not find their way to the highest echelons of the American political structure. Indeed, we can see a glimpse of this mentality in the trade disputes, where there is a significant faction amongst the Americans that persists in making demands of China that they know China will never accede to, because causing a rupture in the (economic) relationship is the very objective of the exercise, not an unintended consequence of a breakdown in negotiations.
So what can China do? As above, I acknowledge that there are lines that China cannot allow to be crossed. Short of this, however, China should exercise great caution and restraint in (especially) matters relating to Taiwan. Renegade provinces or islands occupied by other powers can be recovered when the balance of power is more favourable. A nation in ruins is not so easily rebuilt.
So what can China do? As above, I acknowledge that there are lines that China cannot allow to be crossed. Short of this, however, China should exercise great caution and restraint in (especially) matters relating to Taiwan. Renegade provinces or islands occupied by other powers can be recovered when the balance of power is more favourable. A nation in ruins is not so easily rebuilt.
There’s tons of ruthless people in the US regime, murderers, torturers etc. but they are not fanatics. It takes the mind of a real fanatic to invade a nuclear state against it’s warnings.
Many of them have a well developed survival instinct bordering on cowardice. Why else avoid the draft?
If the US does invade Taiwan, China will fight them conventionally, if the conventional forces are defeated, it will nuke the American forces. If US launches strategic nukes, China will return fire.
This is what would happen if any nuclear power is invaded.
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
Stockpile a thousand DF-41 and DF-ZF and put it into public law that any attempts to separate Taiwan will result in nuclear confrontation. That should deter American adventurism.
China's stance is clear as it is but some people still imagine that China would not risk nuclear war over Taiwan. China just needs to make it more clear.