China's SCS Strategy Thread

hkbc

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Sheesh, China placing a few missiles launchers on islands is a big deal, but the western navies sailing warships stuffed full of missiles is nothing?

The so called FON exercises is pure military intimidation, because when the shoe is on the other foot and Russian bombers are flying in international airspace near the UK, for example, the British most certainly don’t scramble fighters just to go and say hello.

If you are trying to intimidate someone with shows of military might, can you blame the other guy for beefing up their own defences in response? Well obvious the shameless western media can, but what else is new?

Media reporting bias! that's a dog bites man story! When google and facebook f**cked the western media market, all that's left is click bait, mouth pieces for the rich and propaganda!

Also think the PLA took Davidson's critique

Davidson said China could use the bases to challenge the U.S. regional presence, and "would easily overwhelm the military forces of any other South China Sea-claimants.

"China is now capable of controlling the South China Sea in all scenarios short of war with the United States," he said.

and decided he had a point about the obvious gap, so the scenarios now include war! :)
 

hkbc

Junior Member
Visiting Canadian frigate steers clear of freedom-of-navigation
HMCS Vancouver will hold training sessions with the Chinese navy in Hong Kong and visit Singapore before joining the massive RIMPAC 2018 next month

Guess Not everyone in "The West" got the Pentagon FON memo! :)

Asked if Vancouver or any other Canadian warships would sail into the vast portion of the South China Sea covered by Beijing’s territorial claims for freedom-of-navigation patrols, Couturier said the Canadian Navy “doesn’t do freedom-of-navigation, that’s not something we do on purpose.” He added that the vessel would “sail in international waters” while en route to its next courtesy call on Singapore.

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Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
From defense news. Interesting graphic that show the reach of AD. If this news is true it give China a n air defense screen over the whole SCS. I am waiting for deployment of J11B and KJ 500 We probably does not have to wait for long
Find an old article about YJ 12 It is fearsome missile some excerpt For full article here is the link
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How far can China’s long-range missiles reach in the South China Sea?
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over the region and further complicate the movement of American military assets through the area, according to an Asian maritime security expert.

Collin Koh, a research fellow at the Maritime Security Programme at Singapore’s S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies, also called the deployment yet another indication that China is serious about ramping up activities on the disputed Spratly Islands.

He said he expects to see the future
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like fighter jets and bombers to the air bases there, in time to come as part of China’s strategy of creeping control in the strategic waters.

CNBC reported earlier this week that
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had quietly deployed HQ-9 surface-to-air missiles and YJ-12 supersonic anti-ship missiles onto its outposts in the South China Sea in the past month, quoting anonymous sources with direct knowledge of U.S. intelligence reports. They did not specify on which of the Chinese-held islands the missiles were placed.

The reported deployments come in the wake of a Wall Street Journal report last month that the Chinese military was using electronic warfare equipment placed on the islands to jam U.S. Navy aircraft operating over international airspace in the South China Sea.

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Taiwan’s Defense Ministry has sought to downplay the drill, saying China is exaggerating the scale of the activity to create anxiety among Taiwanese.

By: Gillian Wong
Koh told Defense News that the presence of the missiles, with a reported range of 160 and 295 nautical miles respectively, signifies that China regards the artificial islands as strategically high-value installations and merits the allocation of such resources for protection. The islands were built with sand dredged from the seabed. They are now host to airfields, military installations, supporting infrastructure and ship-berthing spaces.

CNBC has called the missiles “defensive” in nature. However, in practice they will also allow China to engage targets far into the surrounding airspace and waters, which includes features held by the other claimants.

The Chinese-built HQ-9 is based on the Russian S-300 air defense system, although its derivatives have been improved over the years by China. It is used for long-range air defense of strategic targets, and the deployment of this system in the Spratly Islands potentially gives China the ability to target aircraft over the whole island group.

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The range of the HQ-9 surface-to-air missile. (Google)
In the case of the YJ-12, it also theoretically allows China to interdict shipping in an arc stretching from the coast off central Vietnam, to eastern Malaysia’s Sabah state and the Philippines’ Palawan Island if deployed on the island province of Hainan and Chinese-controlled islands in the Paracels and Spratlys, as the accompanying graphic in this article shows.

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The range of the YJ-12 supersonic anti-ship missile. (Google)
However, Koh does not expect the news of the missile deployments, which appear to fly in the face of previous Chinese pledges not to “militarize” the South China Sea, to generate much protest from regional countries or rival claimants. Any pushback from the region is unlikely to stop China from pursuing similar behavior, he added, or even upping the ante in the future.

“What China is doing now is precisely what gray zone or short-of-war strategies is about: Keeping its actions below the threshold of red lines that could lead to hostilities, while making calculated gambles to present fait accompli against its rivals”.

The missiles would also enable China to complicate peacetime operations and movement of American warplanes and warships traversing the area, including those carrying out so-called freedom of navigation operations, essentially extending China’s
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“bubble” out from the Chinese mainland into the South China Sea.

Newly appointed commander of U.S. Pacific Command Adm. Philip Davidson, who was only confirmed by the Senate last week,
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that to ensure regional security, “U.S. operations in the South China Sea — to include freedom of navigation operations — must remain regular and routine.” Yet he acknowledged that advances in Chinese military means Pacific Command needs to invest in increased resiliency in its forward-deployed force posture.

Find an old article about YJ 12 It is fearsome missile some excerpt For full article here is the link
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CHINA’S MOST DANGEROUS MISSILE (SO FAR)
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JULY 2, 2014
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Buried on page 40 of the Pentagon’s
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on China’s military power is a brief mention of the YJ-12, a recent addition to China’s portfolio of anti-ship cruise missiles (ASCM). The report notes that, “The new missile provides an increased threat to naval assets, due to its long range and supersonic speeds.” True, but in an understated way. In fact, the YJ-12 is the most dangerous anti-ship missile China has produced thus far, posing an even greater risk to the U.S. Navy’s surface forces in the Western Pacific than the much-discussed DF-21D anti-ship ballistic missile. The arrival of the YJ-12 is one more indication of how the U.S. Navy is falling further behind in the missile competition against China, exposing flaws in operating concepts that U.S. and allied commanders and policymakers have relied on for years.
 
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Du 9 au 12 Mai, l'armée chinoise organise plusieurs exercices de tirs à balle réelle près de l'île de Haïnan et des Paracels, en mer de Chine méridionale.

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From 9 to 12 May, the Chinese army organizes several real-shot exercises near the island of Haïnan and the Paracel, in the South China Sea.

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Study on South China Sea arbitration awards published
SourceXinhuanet
EditorLi Jiayao
Time2018-05-14

BEIJING, May 14 (Xinhua) -- A study on the South China Sea arbitration awards, compiled by the Chinese Society of International Law (CSIL), was published by the Foreign Languages Press Monday.

The book, titled "The South China Sea Arbitration Awards: A Critical Study," has both Chinese and English versions, according to a press release issued on the CSIL website.

The Aquino III administration of the Philippines unilaterally initiated an arbitration on disputes between China and the Philippines in the South China Sea in January 2013. The tribunal rendered two awards in October 2015 and July 2016.

Upholding its position of non-acceptance and non-participation, and objection to the arbitration being pushed forward, the Chinese government maintained that the arbitral tribunal has no jurisdiction over the claims.

China stated that the awards are null and void, and it does not and would not accept or recognize them.

Based on international laws including the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea and relevant international legal practices, and through a comprehensive and in-depth study, the book concluded that the arbitral tribunal has no jurisdiction and the awards are groundless both in fact and law, the statement said.

The research was also published in English by the Oxford University Press in the Chinese Journal of International Law as a special issue.
 
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Un exercice militaire, probablement des fusiliers marins chinois, aura lieu du 18 au 20 Mai sur la côte Est de l'île de Haïnan, bordant la mer de Chine méridionale.

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A military exercise, probably from the Chinese Marines, will take place from 18 to 20 May on the east coast of Haïnan Island, bordering the South China Sea.

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As Rosneft's Vietnam unit drills in disputed area of South China Sea, Beijing issues warning


Rosneft Vietnam BV, a unit of Russian state oil firm Rosneft, is concerned that its recent drilling in an area of the South China Sea that is claimed by China could upset Beijing, two sources with direct knowledge of the situation told Reuters on Wednesday.
Rosneft said on Tuesday its Vietnamese unit had started drilling at the LD-3P well, part of the Lan Do “Red Orchid” offshore gas field in Block 06.1, 370 kms (230 miles) southeast of Vietnam. The block is “within the area outlined by China’s nine-dash line,” according to energy consultancy and research firm Wood Mackenzie.

 
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