China's SCS Strategy Thread

Bellum_Romanum

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Therein lies the pertinent issue I have with the EU’s foreign strategic policy toward China: it is essentially nothing more than an effort to rope and push the United States into committing to an increasingly indefensible strategic posture that would be cataclysmic in both lives and treasure.
The European elites are either unwilling or unable — or both — to relinquish their 19th- and 20th-century conception of China as a country ripe for resource extraction, a market to be exploited, and a people to be dominated. They loudly profess their solemn commitment to “democracy and human rights” while conveniently ignoring the actual material freedom and unprecedented wealth that the Chinese people have gained under the current system — achievements no previous Chinese dynasty was ever able to deliver.
The weaponization of laudable goals such as human rights, freedom, and democracy has turned these concepts into mere buzzwords rather than genuine commitments. Western countries zealously push them onto a country like China without considering whether such values can be successfully transplanted, given China’s unique history, culture, and the catastrophic lessons learned from centuries of foreign interference that resulted in millions of deaths and widespread destruction.
Going back to the EU’s push for militarization in the Indo-Pacific, China’s strategic goal should be to severely weaken these ideologues in European governments so that a real and lasting relationship — one based on genuine pragmatism and mutual benefit — can finally emerge.
 

plawolf

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Ah yes, looks like Bongbong does inspire to become Takaichi #2 (or Elensky #3).


And objective reality is that should the Philippines be moronic enough to choose to go to war against China, it will be utterly destroyed as a functioning state as not only would China have zero reason to hold back, it’s actually in China’s very best interest to set an unmistakable example of what it means to start a war against a superpower when you are a nobody on the hard power scale.

China is a benevolent superpower who does not wish to use its hard power to harvest the weaker powers as the Europeans and Americans always do, but it’s not going to give a shit if you picked a fight you have no chance of surviving never mind winning against it.

China agin won’t have to stoop to war crimes of hitting civilian targets like the Europeans and Americans, it can just hit the legitimate dual use strategic assets like communications, transportation and any dual use sites the Americans are using, on top of all the military and political targets and the Philippines as today will simply cease to exist as a functioning or even whole country any more as it descends into internal chaos and probably fragments.

Not only would China have zero obligation to fix what it has destroyed after the war, if China really was looking to set an example, it can demand crippling war reparations from the Philippines as a condition of their surrender. China probably won’t go that far, but it probably should.
 

00CuriousObserver

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Ah yes, looks like Bongbong does inspire to become Takaichi #2 (or Elensky #3).


The article itself is somewhat bait. "Involved" could mean many different things. He mentioned the 200,000 Filipino nationals in Taiwan, just evacuating them counts as "involved".

In the same interview, Marcos also said

Marcos said that the Philippines "has, from the very start, always held a one-China policy" and "will continue to do that." The Philippines will not intervene in the Taiwan issue, he also said.

Which is conveniently left out of this article.

Of course, China and the PLA should be prepared for any level of "involvement" from the PH. This has been discussed in detail on this forum
 

Kalum Pupeter

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Indonesia’s offer to host US military aircraft repair hub tests non-aligned foreign policy​

If Indonesia turns Kertajati Airport into a Hercules repair hub, it risks being seen as siding with the US in times of war, analysts say​

The
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government’s decision to accept a
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proposal to turn an underused airport into a maintenance hub for
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C-130 Hercules military aircraft has stirred up a familiar debate: how far can Jakarta deepen defence ties with Washington while preserving its non-aligned stance? The plan, which would make Indonesia home to the first facility of its kind in Southeast Asia, emerged alongside a separate discussion over allowing
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aircraft to access Indonesian airspace, adding to concerns over sovereignty, transparency and a “free and active” foreign policy.

The neutral doctrine has long guided Indonesia’s efforts to avoid alignment with major powers while still playing an active role in international affairs. Defence Minister Sjafrie Sjamsoeddin said on May 19 that his American counterpart, Pete Hegseth, had floated the idea of a maintenance, repair and overhaul (MRO) hub for C-139 Hercules aircraft in Indonesia.

“He offered it as this doesn’t exist in any Asean country. He said: ‘How about I centralise C-130 maintenance throughout Asia in Indonesia at our expense?’ I reported to President [
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], who told me to ‘give him Kertajati’. Well, we’re working on that,” Sjafrie told parliament. Sjafrie also revealed that he had signed a letter of intent with Hegseth last month granting US military aircraft access to Indonesian airspace, but no commitment was made.

“An LoI is not a Letter of Commitment. We defend the constitution and maintain our national interests. In our defence cooperation [with Washington], we have the principles of mutual benefit and mutual respect,” he said. “The LoI states respect for each country’s territorial integrity and sovereignty. Second, it requires mechanisms and standing operating procedures, consistent with the laws of each country, if we agree on [the airspace access].”

Kertajati, located in West Java, is dubbed a “ghost airport” due to its nearly deserted terminals and lack of commercial passenger traffic. Officially opened in 2018, it sits on 1,800 hectares (4,500 acres) of land and offers a 3,000 metre (10,000 foot) long runway that can accommodate wide-bodied jets such as
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747s and 787s.
Despite its status as an international airport, the US$146.1 million operation currently only has one regular route to Singapore, departing twice a week. During the Christmas and New Year holiday season last year, it served around only 1,200 passengers, according to operator data.

To boost its utility, Kertajati has started to serve haj flights since last month. Defence Ministry spokesman Rico Sirait told Kompas that Kertajati was chosen due to its extensive available land and “adequate flight support facilities”. The new MRO hub would also boost “the independence of the defence industry and support national strategic aviation logistics”, he said.

Indonesia has also proposed an MRO facility for
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vessels. In August, state-owned shipbuilder PT PAL Indonesia told six US congressional staffers visiting its shipyard facilities in Surabaya that it was “ready to become an MRO partner for US Navy vessels currently operating in the Indo-Pacific region”.

Wary of Washington​

Unease over US intentions remains deeply embedded in Indonesia’s political debate, with some officials warning that cooperation must not come at the expense of sovereignty or neutrality. On May 19, Coordinating Minister for Law, Human Rights, Immigration and Corrections Yusril Ihza Mahendra went further, saying Indonesia could become Washington’s next target for annexation after Greenland because of its vast resources. “Mineral resources are in Greenland. [The US] wants to annex Greenland, but is facing
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. If a Nato country invades another Nato country, Nato will disband. Besides Greenland, which country is their next target? [Indonesia]. This is what they’re after,” Yusril said during a speech at a university in Surabaya.

“From Guam to Papua, it’s only a six-hour sea journey. Guam is a US territory east of the Philippines, and serves as a military base. Frankly, we’re not ready for war. If we were to go to war, we’d only be able to fight for four days. After that, we’d run out of ammunition and surrender.” Aisha Kusumasomantri, director of external relations at think tank Indo-Pacific Strategic Intelligence, dismissed Yusril’s claim. “While
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is unpredictable, in terms of the US annexing [Papua], I don’t think it will go that far,” she said.
“Indonesia is not belligerent in any way, whether in the
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, or in the
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. We are impartial. Washington can still woo Indonesia with non-military approaches, so I don’t think that [an attack] is possible.”

Neutrality question​

To set minds at rest, Jakarta should “be careful and transparent” about the Hercules repair hub plan, including on whether the facility would “exclusively support the operations of US military aircraft in Asia”, lawmaker Tubagus Hasanuddin said. “There could be a perception that this [MRO] constitutes a US military base in Indonesia. This certainly requires careful consideration,” the MP said in a statement.

“The US military’s strategic interests are strongly embedded in the plan” since the offer came from Hegseth instead of the aircraft manufacturer, he warned. Pornomo Rovan Astri Yoga, an expert on law of naval warfare and maritime security, said that the planned facility could acquire broader strategic significance during wartime.

“In times of peace like now, there is no problem with the MRO hub from an international legal perspective, but it would be trickier if there is an armed conflict between the US and China related to the Taiwan contingency,” the Indonesian Navy officer said.

The 1923 Hague Rules of Air Warfare forbid belligerent military aircraft from entering neutral jurisdiction during wartime. “There’s no safe practice yet for belligerent countries’ military aircraft to undergo repairs at airports or maintenance facilities in neutral countries,” Pornomo said. “This is different from [maritime neutrality], where belligerent warships are permitted to enter neutral ports on limited stays to undergo an absolutely necessary repair, with the caveat that it does not increase the fighting capacity of the warship.”

The existence of a maintenance facility for US military aircraft in Indonesia could displease Beijing if conflict were to flare up between China and the US, Pornomo said. “The question is how we can uphold neutrality, especially during the Taiwan contingency. If an armed conflict occurs, we could be perceived by Beijing as being non-neutral due to [the facility] and the [potential] granting of blanket overflight access,” Pornomo said.

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ACuriousPLAFan

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