China's SCS Strategy Thread

[arthur2046]

The world can’t afford to let any nation dismantle the rules-based order that safeguards smaller states and global trade. Keeping China in check isn’t hostility—it’s necessary to preserve regional stability and protect the sovereignty of all nations. If left unchecked, China’s expansionism threatens to upend decades of international norms and peace.

The United States is waging a trade war against all nations globally. China is a beneficiary and defender of the WTO. You blame China because within the U.S.-established rules-based world order, China has developed much faster than the U.S.

 

[zhangjim]

the worst part isn't the bait—it's that he used AI to write it all and didn't even remove the em dashes—it's necessary for mods to clean up this thread, if left unchecked the ambitions of trolls will definitely upend the forum's norms and peace.

You need to understand that there're lunatics out there believe "international law" means anything...case in point, the plight of Palestinians.

Anyway, for me, I'm not here to listen to him teach me. From countless cases around the world, small countries ≠ kindness and correctness, and there is no difference between countries in pursuing interests. All things can only be analyzed on a case by case basis, rather than simply judging that 'small countries need protection'.
For our country, territorial issues cannot be handed over to any "international court" for adjudication, and there is no "third party" without political stance in this world. Perhaps only God is fair, but God does not exist.

 

[duskseeker]

the worst part isn't the bait—it's that he used AI to write it all and didn't even remove the em dashes—it's necessary for mods to clean up this thread, if left unchecked the ambitions of trolls will definitely upend the forum's norms and peace.

Haha lols this is definitely copy past from Pinoy media and is a worry troll

 

[FriedRiceNSpice]

I laughed for your hypocritical words. Soldiers have to obey the orders of those who cannot go to the front line. If the leader lacks determination, then everything is meaningless. Any post remedy cannot make up for the losses caused by the initial tolerance and indulgence. I'm not sure about the current casualty figures, but these soldiers are paying the price for the leadership's decisions, and it's not worth it.

No soldiers died in the incident: are you confusing soldier with coast guard? Yes, any loss of life is tragic and the coast guardsmen were in a way serving their country; but there is a huge difference between a PLAN serviceman and a coast guard member. One is a patriot dedicated to protecting his nation, and the other either couldn't find a better job or didn't want to do any jobs involving hard work. If the 056 involved was a PLAN 056 screwed by PLAN sailors, then the chance of a collision occurring would have been substantively lower.

Perhaps in the eyes of outsiders, China is becoming increasingly powerful, but from the perspective of practical interests, it is a country that has not yet completed reunification and a large number of interests have been occupied by foreign countries. I don't think this situation can also be seen as a major power.

Only a major power would even dare to claim a nation-sized swathe of sea extending thousands of kilometers away from its own coastline. China's claim over the SCS is unprecedented: even US doesn't attempt to claim the Caribbean nor Gulf of Texas as its own sovereign territory.

 

[sequ]

No soldiers died in the incident: are you confusing soldier with coast guard? Yes, any loss of life is tragic and the coast guardsmen were in a way serving their country; but there is a huge difference between a PLAN serviceman and a coast guard member. One is a patriot dedicated to protecting his nation, and the other either couldn't find a better job or didn't want to do any jobs involving hard work. If the 056 involved was a PLAN 056 screwed by PLAN sailors, then the chance of a collision occurring would have been substantively lower.

Have some decency man. 3 perished in the line of duty, you can see them on the footage moments before the collision with 2 of them trying to cushion the impact till the last moment.

They got more guts than any of us here.

 

[Thecore]

Truth be told, if China wanted be completely ruthless, they would proceed with holding back larger ships, even the coast guard cutter sized ones and start sending in ships comparable in size to what the filipinos are using. Create an atmosphere of complacence over time for the filipinos and entice them into shooting first and, dare I say, even cause Chinese deaths. Then use it as pretense to unleash hell on them. China needs to take some pages out of the insidious underhanded American way of doing things.

 

[sequ]

Please excuse our Greek friend @sequ: he thinks anyone and everyone who writes better than him in English is an AI.

Jai Hind my fellow Turk-hater!

 

[abc123]

No soldiers died in the incident: are you confusing soldier with coast guard? Yes, any loss of life is tragic and the coast guardsmen were in a way serving their country; but there is a huge difference between a PLAN serviceman and a coast guard member. One is a patriot dedicated to protecting his nation, and the other either couldn't find a better job or didn't want to do any jobs involving hard work. If the 056 involved was a PLAN 056 screwed by PLAN sailors, then the chance of a collision occurring would have been substantively lower.

Sorry, that's a gross disrespect towards Chinese ( or any other ) Coast Guard member. Especially because they go on sea without any armament whatsoever, and are definitly risking their life for their own country.

And, IMHO, the captain of that Chinese destroyer should definitly be removed from command and court marshaled, because he is danger for navigation, and even more, danger for it's own side more than enemy...

 

[Dante80]

For future reference, I am the official Turk-hater here, please bear that in mind.

The main reason being Turks appropriating Κοκορέτσι from us, and trying to pass it as their own (kokorec).

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

The damaged CCG cutter in the distance, with a PLAN 903/A AOR nearby. Judging by the smoke coming out of her smokestack, the cutter certain can sail on her own without assistance.

Posted by @nuwangzi on Twitter.