Figured as much. As I wrote, this was both expected and appropriate.
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China's Defense Spending Thread
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Sure, we can talk about the Communist Party of China working as a Leninist system under democratic centralism with unique Chinese characteristics, but I don't think that changes anything with regards to my argument. Also, I didn't call them communists, I said that as a communist I respect how and why the CPC organizes its priorities for serving the people.
The 15th program coming live now comes to mind too!
We are on the verge or actually in a global war that could spread and this is the spending increase.
I hope this is not the real number and actual spending is far greater.
You build your weapons during peacetime. Once war starts, China’s industrial infrastructure will be heavily targeted. No amount of missile defences will protect those industrial areas as Iran and Israel are finding out.
With a war in East Asia, China needs 30k ballistic missiles. There are many places to hit and many of these missiles will get knock down too . When US said they ran out of this missile or that missile, it is just a ruse to get China into action, either help Iran militarily or attack Taiwan at this moment.
Might is very important for offense and deterrence. Hundreds of years ago India and China had the largest GDP in the world. Because they don't have the might, they lost to UK, which had a smaller economy.
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FriedRiceNSpice
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Your have no sense of scale. To disrupt industrial production, hundreds of thousands of missiles would need to hit their targets every month. WW2 Germany was hit daily by thousand bomber raids regularly starting in 1942, yet military production increased every month until November of 1944. Chinese industrial capacity is magnitudes greater and far more dispersed than that of WW2 Germany.
US Patriot production is 600-800/yr. China could pump out 30k ballistic missiles in a year. GDP alone is meaningless- China in the 1800s had no industry and was far behind the UK in science and technology.
International image, lol. Thanks, that was a good laugh.
A more suitable argument is that 7.0% compounds like crazy, in 10 years, 7.0% sustained is doubling of defense budget, which is huge. There is concerns about waste and corruption from an influx of so much cash all at once.
That said, I would support a rapid increase in the nuclear force. It's the main reason US/NATO hasn't directly intervened in Ukraine is because of Russian nuclear weapons. That same fear of intervention must be instilled in Taiwan contingency. It's wild that US can openly discuss direct intervention in Taiwan yet so scared when it comes to Ukraine-Russia.
Yes. It is happening as we speak. But judging from Toyko's recent comments on Taiwan contingency, they either have not noticed it, or they noticed it and said "meh!".
antiterror13
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well, 7% increase is a bit disappointing (hoping for 12%), but we are talking about increase from 1.78T Yuan to 1.91T Yuan or increase by 126B Yuan. In current exchange rate it is ~$18.3B ... larger than Taiwan total defense spending ($16.5B)
Singapore defense spending is $14.6B, Indonesia $11.2B, Pakistan $10.2B, Iran $7.9B and Philippine $6.1B
So the increase of China defense spending in 2026 is 3x the Philipine defense spending
And $18.5B in China can go a long way in purchasing weapons, soldiers salary and foods
Singapore defense spending is $14.6B, Indonesia $11.2B, Pakistan $10.2B, Iran $7.9B and Philippine $6.1B
So the increase of China defense spending in 2026 is 3x the Philipine defense spending
And $18.5B in China can go a long way in purchasing weapons, soldiers salary and foods
Even though the US and China nearly went to war in the SCS in 2016, there wasn't a significant increase in overt military spending; it ultimately grew to current level through compound interest.
Military production involves more than just military spending; it also includes rational procurement and lean manufacturing. The localization of advanced technologies and automation are reducing the cost of some weapons, a fact that is evident to all.
Military production involves more than just military spending; it also includes rational procurement and lean manufacturing. The localization of advanced technologies and automation are reducing the cost of some weapons, a fact that is evident to all.