China's Defense/Military Breaking News Thread

[LostWraith]

Thanks a lot for posting that. It was definitely one of the most comprehensive and more neutral looks at the Chinese military I've seen recently, a good break from the usual "beware the red China's military build up of doom" rhetoric.

 

[bladerunner]

Yes most informative .

By the strangest of coincidences he talks about China now entering its 2nd 30yr period of military modernisation, ending around about the same time David Walker suggests a possible effect of financial recklessness, would be its inability to pay its armed forces, in a interview on 60 minutes.
Do those Chinese have a crystal ball or something, because I also remember him saying, IHO, China , would be trying its best to avoid military excursions.

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[bd popeye]

Man I had to dig and blow away the cobwebs and dust to find this thread!!

PLA to recruit 130,000 university graduates.

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　BEIJING, Oct. 21 (Xinhua) -- A total of 130,000 graduates from Chinese universities and colleges are expected to join the army this winter, a record number in the country that wants to uplift the quality of servicemen while grappling with job crisis.

Ministry of Education said Wednesday that graduates who had signed up in June for military service should report to recruiting stations across the country early next month when annual conscription work begins.

Those who did not register beforehand could also apply for joining the army. If recruited, every student-turned soldier will receive a one-off refund of up to 24,000 yuan (3,500 U.S. dollars) as a compensation to college tuition fees or student loans.

The money, paid by central government's budget, roughly equals to the tuition fee for the four-year university education in China.

"This means the state pays for university education of those servicemen," said Zhang Haoming, deputy director of the ministry's department for college student affairs.

And this was just part of privilege policies announced this year to encourage more Chinese youth with higher education background to serve in the People's Liberation Army (PLA).

They will have more chances of getting promoted or receiving education at military academies. After finishing the two-year compulsory service, they are promised to enjoy preference while seeking jobs at police and other law-enforcement departments.

The PLA recruits are usually young men aged between 18 and 20 and young women of 18 or 19. But the age limit can be extended to 24 for those with a bachelor degree.

The Chinese army previously relied mostly on high school graduates and the unemployed, although all males aged 18 to 22 are nominally obliged to undergo two years of service according to the country's conscription law.

Most college students just take part in month-long military training, usually in their first month of campus life.

China's State Council, or Cabinet, revised the government's recruitment regulations in September 2001 to enlist college students for the first time in a pilot scheme. More than 2,000 students were recruited in that year.

The move to recruit more college graduates has been seen as Chinese army's efforts to sharpen its high-tech edge.

The crunch of job market since last year due to global economic downturn and extra supply of graduates was also driving many youth to choose the army as an alternative employment.

A Defense Ministry survey in July found that among over 6 million college and university graduates, about 1.44 million male graduates were interested in military service.

 

[Infra_Man99]

One step in the right direction for East Asian nations:

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. Relations between China, South Korea, and Japan have been gradually improving. Even the military sector is making tiny gains.

 

[rhino123]

One step in the right direction for East Asian nations:

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. Relations between China, South Korea, and Japan have been gradually improving. Even the military sector is making tiny gains.

If the East Asian Security Framework actually went into full implementation, I can imagine the face of North Korea... The needs for North Korea will diminish and that the country will be further isolated, and now surrounded on three fronts by not-that-friendly to upright hostile countries - China, South Korea and Japan. And all these nations are economically and militarily much stronger than North Korea.

 

[Infra_Man99]

If the East Asian Security Framework actually went into full implementation, I can imagine the face of North Korea... The needs for North Korea will diminish and that the country will be further isolated, and now surrounded on three fronts by not-that-friendly to upright hostile countries - China, South Korea and Japan. And all these nations are economically and militarily much stronger than North Korea.

My prediction is that China will slowly bring North Korea into this East Asian Security Framework or East Asian Alliance. China has been allied with North Korea for a long time, and China is still North Korea's ally. I read news that China is currently improving North Korea's infrastructure, and the two are holding talks on major changes for North Korea's entire society. Russia will probably have observer status or friendly status, and the same goes with America. An East Asian partnership could be tremendously beneficial for China, both Koreas, and Japan in every aspect of their societies. However, I am getting ahead of reality, because lots of problems must be solved.

 

[Finn McCool]

With no common enemy and plenty to divide the member nations I can't see any East Asian security partnership getting off the ground.

 

[rhino123]

"My prediction is that China will slowly bring North Korea into this East Asian Security Framework or East Asian Alliance. China has been allied with North Korea for a long time, and China is still North Korea's ally. I read news that China is currently improving North Korea's infrastructure, and the two are holding talks on major changes for North Korea's entire society. Russia will probably have observer status or friendly status, and the same goes with America. An East Asian partnership could be tremendously beneficial for China, both Koreas, and Japan in every aspect of their societies. However, I am getting ahead of reality, because lots of problems must be solved. "


What you said might be correct. But as long as current North Korea stance is not changed, I doubt things will be much different with the attitude of North Korea to the rest of the world. And for the stance to change, the 'Kim empire' must not exist...

 

[cloyce]

Re: hamas agents ordered weapons from China

Hamas agents ordered weapons from China

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JERUSALEM ?Israel has evidence that the Hamas regime has been ordering weapons and military equipment directly from China.

Israeli officials said the Hamas regime in the Gaza Strip has sent agents to Beijing to negotiate weapons deals with state-owned Chinese companies. In 2008, they said, Chinese-origin extended-range rockets were acquired and sent to the Gaza Strip via Iran.

"We now believe that Hamas has been dealing directly with Chinese suppliers, rather than through Iran," an official said.

During the war in the Gaza Strip in early 2009, Hamas fired scores of Chinese-origin 122 mm and 170 mm rockets, with ranges of up to 40 kilometers, into Israel.

Officials said Hamas has been using agents from Europe, Israel and the West Bank to help facilitate the Chinese weapons procurement. On April 26, a Palestinian man from the West Bank city of Hebron was indicted on charges of trying to purchase weapons for Hamas.

Saadi Jamjum, a 33-year-old car dealer, was alleged to have traveled to China for Hamas in March 2009. The indictment said Jamjum was asked by a Hamas agent, identified as Raid Abu Hatlah, to purchase 60 telescopic rifle sights, 2,000 M-16 rifle magazines, 2,000 additional gun clips, 1,000 radios, 400 mobile phones and dozens of listening devices.

The indictment said the Chinese weapons were to have been shipped to the Gaza Strip via cargo registered as containing toys. To enhance the credibility of the shipment, Jamjum was ordered by Abu Hatlah, a resident of the Gaza Strip, to purchase thousands of dollars of toys from a Chinese factory.

The Chinese suppliers of the weapons allegedly ordered by Jamjum were not identified.

Officials said Hamas has sought to diversify its military suppliers in wake of the 22-day war with Israel. So far, Iran and Hizbullah have been virtually the sole suppliers to the Hamas regime

Are you kidding me?

 

[Zool]

This seems at a minimum very offtopic off) in a professional Military & Defence forum such as SinoDefence.

Where topics here get shutdown for Country vs. Country discussion etc, I would expect a moderator to apply a suspension or ban.

Zool..Thanks for pointing the situation out.

I seldom check this thread because the news is rather benign. You fellows need to discuss or post Chinese military news and not discuss economics politics etc. So....stay on topic

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