It is rather frustrating to live with . I mean i remember as a kid old nam vets saying in 03 that we were going to loose iraq and a stan . Well look what happens 10 trillion dollars later. One thing the pro war crowd thinks of is what happens if we win ? We will have destroyed a nation thats 33 percent of global manufacturing out put a nation of 1.4 billion people spread across an area the size of conus with a language very few americans are fluent in. Now if i know one thing from chinese history is after the last occupation and century of humiliation they would rather cease to exist than to bow to a western state. If afghanistan and iraq was bad for insurgency, imagine millions of angry educated chinese who also likely have skilled trades folk en mass. The type of folk who can make 100 lbs of c4 cut up sewer pipe and a cap and make an efp out of it. Fact is we have nowhere near enough people to occupy or run china, let alone the political logistics of administrating it. Even if we won it would destroy us.
I find that many people in the west hold racist ideas towards most asians at a subconscious level like painfully bad fucking Vietnam era stereotypes.
these are
1. The chinese cannot innovate or create they can only steal and copy. This gets thrown around whenever something new and impressive comes out of china . “It’s stolen USA made it first were better.” Issue is in this case “inventing” is either running a one off design and testing program or solving the general concept without developing production capacity. Just because one knows theoretically what tiddy feels like does not mean they have the capacity to aquire the tiddy. This is a rather crass way of saying industrial logistics matter. (Ex lack of ship building indistry lack of high performance explosives and tungsten.)
2. Chinese products are inferior. Magically chinese buildings will crumble like a castle built of sand at the beach the damn will fall the tanks will rust and disintegrate in front of our eyes. Clear absurdity . The chinese make some good kit i know this because i have purchased leapers optics , olight, and miltec. Fact is the shits good and they make a huge fucking profit even with low sales cost(That means in a war economy china can afford to produce new material at a lower cost per individual and endure it longer).. Folks will say yeah but the usa currently has the high tech lead ( keep in mind this gap is shrinking). The issue here is a flaw driven by the modern usa’s obsession with wonderwaffe. Part of this is a left over from cold war propaganda started in the 80s -2000s. The usa had to hype up the release of new tech at the time to bolster the morale of forces who were often times looking at vastly superior performance soviet kit until the 80s. While a majority of this kit has performed very well it is fundamentally getting long in the tooth and many are without proper replacement . What this means is that china can observe the potential of our legacy based platforms and counter design their solutions. Also one must remember the tigger did not win ww2 it was the Sherman and t34 and im no math genius but im pretty sure china has a large enough population to sustain some pretty nasty losses.
3.The end of history. Nothing dumber or more hubristic has ever been said. I an sure the Greeks, Persians, Hindu India, Imperial China and The United kingdom figured they would last till the sun burned from the sky. The issue here is americans assume because the USSR collapsed that neoliberal ( Tbh were an oligarchy but i digress) politics was the superior form of government for all time . I doubt i need to explain too much as to the mental problems this mindset causes .
4. Chinese are cowards. This ones born out of americans viewing asians in particular their men as effeminate and weak. Unless your a pork eating beer chugging crusader for christ who has broken more than 10 bones and has picked up an equal amount of stds you aint a real man. This leads to many americans thinking the chinese would be an easily demoralized force prone to surrender. No clue why anyone who has read about the korean war would ever think this.
5. China has no modern war experience and limited institutional knowledge. This is commonly said when someone is trying to push back against the fact Chinese levels of training are approaching the West’s. We have not fought any real opposition since 03 and 03 was a coalition force with nato plus extras. (i am unsure how many of our allies would be willing to attack a nuclear nation.) Fact is though this is not really an advantage at all if anything its become a clear disadvantage , recruitment numbers are low as the younger generation fears being shipped off to die or be trumatized in another forever war ( Thats before you get to the fact 86 percent of military age youth are considered unfit for service due to obesity,psych or criminal reasons.) The constant state of war has also spread our forces thin on places we cannot withdraw our obligations from (Gee what colonial powers had this happen?) That makes it hard for us to concentrate forces. But there are still more issues from constant war many of our troops are already demoralized the suicide and drug od rate climbs as inadequate mental health and health services are provided. You need healthy bodies and healthy minds to fight a war. Healthy bodies and minds are created during peace not continued exposure to violent barbarity. All we have shown for 20 plus years was that we could operate in permissive battle spaces against fucking ngo terrorist groups. No shit its easy to stack bodies when you have an ac130 on call and your opfor doesn’t even have fucking manpads.
sorry for any errors and odd formatting as this was sent from my phone.
- Ramblings by bumfuck uncle
