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", The Associated Press, International Herald Tribune, April 7, 2008:

China on Monday hailed a new military hot line with Russia as a sign of strengthened cooperation, in sharp contrast with sluggish efforts to set up a similar link with Washington.

The hot line with Moscow "reflects the level of political trust and strategic coordination between the two countries," state media quoted Chinese Defense Minister Liang Guanglie as telling the visiting chairman of the Russian parliament's defense committee.

More at the link. Not really quite sure what to make of this, although any time a hotline is established between Great Powers, it is a step in the right direction. Still, other than to entrench what ties presently exist between China and Russia, this seems to be rather less a start to something new than a simply culmination of what already is.
 

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", by Nicole M. Ferrand, Center for Security Policy, 10 April, 2008:

According to Business News Americas, Hutchinson Port Holdings is the port-operating subsidiary of Hong Kong's Hutchison-Whampoa. The company focuses "on trans-Pacific/Atlantic corridor cargo trade" and has a portfolio of ports in Latin America. In 2001 it bought out Philippines-based port operator ICTSI, which had various Latin American interests in Argentina, Mexico and the Bahamas. In Panama, HPH's Panama Port Company operates the ports of Cristobal and Balboa. Manta is a desirable port for HPH as it is the closest port to Asia on Latin America's west coast.[4]

The next steps would involve HPH accepting the post 2009 concession for Manta's air force base (it already controls the sea port), and another Chinese investment firm's participation in financing the road/rail network between Manta and Manaus, Brazil. According to STRATFOR, "while this is not the first time China has been made such an offer by a Latin American nation, it is the first time U.S. geopolitical interests in the region have been so closely brushed up against." They forecast that "from a security perspective, a Chinese military presence in the Western Hemisphere would be viewed by the U.S. as a hostile move, and would inevitably invite the Pentagon's ire." Insiders predict that members of the People's Liberation Army will be moving in soon but will "try to maintain good relations with the US to prevent remunerative trade policies such as tariffs."[5]

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Does anyone know much about the background of this source, the Center for Security Policy? The article's title strikes a somewhat alarmed tone, and it's only much, much further down in the article that the essence of the matter really gets dealt with. Obviously, Ecuador is in a position to provide China with access to a strategic port and airfield on the Pacific Coast of South America, and one with transportation links (also with Chinese inviolvement) to the interior of the Continent - and within easy naval strike force range of the Panama Canal, where, incidently, the same Chinese company also now leases a port. Still, none of this means that the PLAN is going to set up shop in the Port Manta, or the PLAAF at the adjacent Manta Air Base.

Look, there is obviously the physical potential for a stationed PLA presence in and around Manta's Port and Air Base, never mind elsewhere; physical infrastructure of this kind is more or less dual-use, so to speak. But there is also the matter of intentions; even given the presence of capability, intention is the necessary half of the formula resulting in a product. There is no clear sign of any planned PLA presence at or around Manta. This article is correct in pointing out the capability that the Manta Port and Air Bases may provide to a hypothetical, future Chinese military presence. But the solid product of capabilities and intentions clearly indicates only a commercial involvement by China, for obvious economic reasons. Unless a formal announcement, or an actual deployment, were to demonstrate otherwise, this article may seem to be jumping the gun. After all, what would a PLA presence in South America accomplish other than to provoke the US?
 

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I found a reference to a Jane´s article that talks about a new underground submarine base in Hainan. And they say there is satellite photos of it.

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Secret Sanya - China's new nuclear naval base revealed
21 April 2008


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China is constructing a major underground nuclear submarine base near Sanya, on Hainan Island off its southern coast, Jane's can confirm. Although Asian military sources have disclosed this fact to Jane's since 2002, high-resolution commercially available satellite imagery from DigitalGlobe allows independent verification of the previous suggestions.

The extent of construction indicates the Sanya base (also known as Yulin) could become a key future base for People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) aircraft carriers and other power-projection ships. In December 2007, perhaps in concert with a major PLAN exercise the previous month, the PLA moved its first Type 094 second-generation nuclear ballistic missile submarine (SSBN) to Sanya.

An underground submarine base and the positioning of China's most advanced sub-surface combatants at Sanya would have implications for China's control of the South China Sea and the strategically vital straits in the area. Further satellite imagery suggests the construction of Sanya has been supported by a gradual military build-up in the Paracel Islands over the last 20 years, and the transformation of the Chinese-occupied features in the Spratly Island group into assets that could support a range of military operations.

China's nuclear and naval build-up at Sanya underlines Beijing's desire to assert tighter control over this region. China's increasing dependence on imported petroleum and mineral resources has contributed to an intensified Chinese concern about defending its access to vital sea lanes, particularly to its south. It is this concern that in large part is driving China's development of power-projection naval forces such as aircraft carriers and long-range nuclear submarines.

China has pursued this build-up at Sanya with little fanfare, offering no public explanations regarding its plan to base nuclear weapons or advanced naval platforms there.

For both regional and extra-regional powers, it will be difficult to ignore that China is now building a major naval base at Sanya and may be preparing to house and protect a large proportion of its nuclear forces here, and even operate them from this base. This development so close to the Southeast Asian sea lanes so vital to the economies of Asia can only cause concern far beyond these straits.

Image: Digital imagery has confirmed Sanya's place as a major future Chinese naval base. (DigitalGlobe)
 

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Does China have these 2 meter wavelengths radars?

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JSF 'at risk' from new Russian radars

Australia's new Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) combat aircraft could be vulnerable to a Russian radar technology which appears to overcome their key stealth advantage, a defence analyst has warned.

Dr Carlo Kopp, an analyst with the defence think tank Air Power Australia, says the risk was demonstrated almost a decade ago when Serbian air defences shot down a US F-117A Nighthawk stealth aircraft.

That wake-up call evidently was not heeded in the west, he said.

But the Australian Defence Force says stealth technology has advanced significantly since the Nighthawk and JSF will be very stealthy, even against the new Russian radars.

Under present plans, the RAAF is set to buy 100 of the Lockheed F-35 JSF which will enter service around the middle of 2016 and serve as Australia's principal combat aircraft to mid-century.

JSF is a very advanced combat aircraft specifically designed to be virtually invisible to radar.

Australia also is buying 24 Boeing Super Hornet aircraft which provide some stealth capability.

Stealth technology - much of which remains top secret - works by a combination of technologies designed to absorb the radar signal and ensure it doesn't bounce back to the transmitting station.

Radar operates by transmitting a signal, then detecting its return echo when it bounces off a distant aircraft.

Russian publications stated quite bluntly that US stealth designs had been largely optimised to defeat widely-used radars operating in the centimetric and decimetric bands, Dr Kopp said.

Such radars feature wavelengths around 10-100 millimetres, but new advanced Russian digital radars, now being actively marketed, operate in the VHF (very high frequency) band with wavelengths about two metres.

Dr Kopp said stealth technology was very effective at defeating centimetric and decimetric radar but much less so at remaining invisible to VHF radar.

An analysis of JSF suggested it was particularly vulnerable to detection by radars in this band because of its small size and particular design, he said.

"What is abundantly clear is that VHF radars will have much better detection performance against fighter-sized stealth aircraft compared to decimetric and centimetric band radars," he said.

Once the Russians deployed their counter-stealth radars, it was to be expected that other nations such as China would follow, Dr Kopp said.

As well, older widely-used Russian VHF radars and their associated anti-aircraft missile systems, could also be digitally upgraded to provide a substantial capability against stealth aircraft.

"The US has enjoyed an unchallenged technological monopoly on stealth capabilities for almost three decades and the notion that potential opponents would sit by idly is not realistic."

A defence spokesman said the very low observable (VLO) stealth characteristics of the JSF, as with all stealth aircraft, were optimised for specific radar frequency bands.

"However, even outside of these optimised bands a VLO aircraft is much harder to detect than a conventional aircraft," he said.

"The F-117 is an example of an early version stealth aircraft with its distinctive external shapes.

"Stealth technology has progressed significantly since the F-117 design and the latest technologies have been incorporated into the F-35 Lightning II."
 

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Venezuela's Sukhoi-30 fleet nearly complete

The Venezuelan military aviation this year is slated to be delivered the last four Russian Sukhoi-30 warplanes to complete a 24-aircraft fleet the Venezuelan government bought from Moscow.

Aviation Commander, Major General Luis José Berroterán Acosta, said a communications satellite for peaceful purposes, as well as seven radars for air defense, and a last batch of weapons would be sent from China by the end of this semester.

In the 2008 Military Inter-institutional Games of the Venezuelan Armed Forces, held in military base Fuerte Tiuna, the high-ranking official stated that plans to modernize the military aviation are moving forward.
This is interesting, I remember reading about the satellite and 3 JYL-1 radar, but I wonder where the other 4 radar came from and what this last batch of weapon?
 

alopes

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I find this interesting and an obvious move for China, to put sensors in the ocean´s floors.

China surveillance
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Defense officials said China has deployed a new wide-area ocean surveillance system that includes an underwater sonar network of sensors, and ground- and sea-based long-range radar that will make it more difficult for U.S. submarines to protect the fleet and to track China's growing force of new attack and missile submarines.

A former U.S. government defense specialist on China said on the condition of anonymity that there are indications China is operating a rudimentary underwater Sound Surveillance System, or SOSUS. The sonar network includes fixed sensors that can pinpoint U.S. submarines operating in some areas of the western Pacific.

The U.S. Navy operates a similar system at strategic underwater choke points around the world.

The Chinese SOSUS has been detected underwater in the Bohai Sea, off the northern Chinese coast, north of the Yellow Sea, a major Chinese navy operating area. Additionally, China also has set up at least five long- and medium-range radar sites along its coast that have over-the-horizon capability, the former official said.

The sonar and radar are part of China's key strategic wartime goal of knocking out the five or more aircraft carrier strike groups that would be rushed to the region near Taiwan in any future conflict. Those carrier battle groups are defended by submarines.

"If they are after carriers, we protect carriers with subs and if they know where they are, they can find the carriers," said the former defense official, who confirmed that the Chinese are developing various ground, sea and space sensors designed to "target the American fleet."

The Chinese sonar and radar also complicates the Navy's mission of tracking China's submarine fleet, which includes large numbers of newer and quieter attack and ballistic missile boats with JL-2 nuclear missiles capable of hitting the United States.

"If the Chinese can do SOSUS that would be a tremendous leg up for their submarines," the defense official said. "Because the best way to hunt a sub is with a sub."

China's SOSUS array "will make it more difficult to follow and prosecute their [missile submarines] with all their missiles aimed at the U.S.," the former official said. The radar-sonar network provides the Chinese military with "constant air and sea coverage of the western Pacific for the first time, so they can keep a 24-7 trail on American naval assets for the first time."

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Gates Spars with Chinese Officer

June 02, 2008

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The Pentagon chief and a top Chinese defense officer tangled over Beijing's military growth and U.S. plans for a missile defense system in Asia.

The back-and-forth between Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Lt. Gen. Ma Xiaotian, deputy chief of the General Staff for the People's Liberation Army, was evidence of the countries' awkward transition to a more open and improved relationship.

Gates took on Ma's claims that China wants only to defend itself with intercontinental ballistic missiles and is focused on defensive systems.

"I don't know what you use them for if it's not for offensive capabilities," Gates told reporters Sunday. While that kind of system might be considered a deterrent for other countries, Gates said it is "clearly for use in an offensive way."

He also dismissed China's protests about U.S. plans for an anti-missile defenses with Japan, as well as the deployment of missile defense sites in Poland and the Czech Republic.

Ma did not mention the United States by name, but said there are concerns in Pacific about the expansion of missile defense that could create instability in the region.

Asked about Ma's comments, Gates said, "I think that it's more of a political statement than it is one about military strategy."

U.S. and Chinese officials have taken slow but measurable steps to improve relations, including establishing a hot line between the countries' defense agencies. The Chinese also have offered thanks for U.S. aid after the recent earthquake in Sichuan province.

Tensions remain, however, leading to concerns the countries will build up their militaries in an effort to counteract and compete with each other.

In recent weeks China and Russia issued a joint statement condemning U.S. missile defense plans. Washington has struggle to convince both countries that the missile interceptors are not a threat to them.

The U.S. system, Gates said, is designed to defend against a small number of incoming missiles and would be overwhelmed easily "should a country with scores, if not hundreds of missiles, launch an attack."

Gates said the U.S. was concerned about China's expanding military. Officials are watching developments closely and "we will make our own adjustments as necessary," he said.

Ma said China's military spending was "limited and proportional."

"China's defense expenditure is at a low level in contrast to some developed countries in the world," Ma said during an international security conference in Singapore over the weekend. "We are military threat to no other country."

Amid all the rhetoric, Gates said he is pleased with recent meetings between the two countries, including a private session with Ma on Saturday.

"Our hope is that over the next year or two this dialogue will develop in a way that enables us both to avoid unnecessary military expenditures," Gates said.

© Copyright 2008 Associated Press
 

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MAY 12, 2008
China Threatens U.S. Defense Contractors Over Taiwan

By WENDELL MINNICK And VAGO MURADIAN TAIPEI and WASHINGTON

Over the past two years, China has threatened to stop buying commercial airliners from Boeing and civil helicopters from Bell Helicopter and Sikorsky if the companies continue to sell weapons and “advanced helicopter technologies” to Taiwan, sources said. Each of the companies stands to lose billions of dollars in potential orders, sources added.
Pressure on U.S. officials and arms makers is a growing part of Beijing’s efforts to isolate the self-governing island and undermine its defenses. When Chinese Defense Minister Liang Guanglie placed the first call on the new Beijing-Washington military hot line in April, he asked his American counterpart, Robert Gates, to halt arms sales to Taiwan.
“China is flexing its economic muscle,” said a U.S. military official, who said China had also threatened to withhold entry visas from U.S. governors whose trips included vis¬its to Taiwan.
“The subject is radioactive,” one U.S. defense contractor based in Taiwan said. “There have been some nasty exchanges” between his company and Beijing on the is-sue of military sales to Taiwan.
Executives said that companies like Lockheed Martin and Raytheon — which make commercially competitive products like air traffic and other systems — admitted that they’re handicapped in the lucrative Chinese market, in part because of their arms sales to Taiwan, sources said.
“We have some commercial work that we do in China, like RFID [radio frequency identification] and weather radars,” said Rick Kirkland who heads Lockheed’s South Asia operations. “But we don’t expect to be invited to compete for large commercial tenders because we are such a large supplier to Taiwan. That’s just a fact of life. Our product portfolio doesn’t fit well with what’s releasable to China.” Washington imposed an embargo of arms and military technology on China after its 1989 crack-down against demonstrators in Tianamen Square.
Boeing’s Reaction
In 2006, China’s threats led Boeing to shutter its Taipei office and move the staff to Singapore, sources said.
A Taiwan military official con¬firmed the problem.
“Boeing did not want its employees talking to Taiwan,” he said.
Now the Chicago-based firm is hoping its expected $1 billion deal to supply 30 AH-64D Apache at¬tack helicopters will not hurt commercial sales to China, which has ordered more than 100 jetliners annually in the past five years and is the world’s largest and fastest growing commercial jet market.
Boeing, Bell and Sikorsky prefer to sell arms to Taiwan through the U.S. Defense Security and Cooperation Agency under the Foreign Military Sale system. Under the system, the U.S. government buys equipment from contractors and then transfers them to allied and friendly nations.
The companies have been telling China that they have a responsibility to fill these orders, especially when they come from the U.S. government. What that government chooses to do with the items is not the firms’ concern or responsibility.
Boeing spokesman Doug Ken¬nett declined to comment directly on Beijing’s threats. But he said that the company continues to supply the U.S. government with weapons systems that through the FMS system are transferred to nations worldwide.
Kennett stressed, however, that Boeing’s three-decades-plus of jetliner sales to China were a pillar of the two countries’ ties.
“Boeing’s export of commercial aircraft to China has met their burgeoning civilian transport needs while supporting thousands of jobs here at home,” he said. “Our commercial products represent the single strongest export in the U.S. China trade relationship.” Richard Millies, the deputy director of the Defense Security Cooperation Agency, said he had no knowledge of Beijing’s threats, but added that leading American firms with commercial interests in China have asked that all defense sales to Taiwan be handled through the Foreign Military Sales system.
None of the American companies have declined to sell to the U.S. government, and if any did so, it would be cause for alarm and con¬cern, Millies said.
In the April 10 hot line call, Gates stressed the U.S. commitment to the one-China policy and restated that the United States opposes any unilateral effort by either China or Taiwan to change the status quo, according to Chinese Defense Ministry press releases.
It’s not clear whether any of this will placate China; Chinese officials could not be reached for comment. Lin Chong-Pin, a former Taiwan deputy minister of defense, believes this is part of a sophisticated soft¬power strategy by Beijing.
“Since late June 2007, high-ranking U.S. officials pressured by Beijing have publicly criticized the Taipei government 11 times for the referendum to join the United Nations under the name of Taiwan, while Beijing itself has taken a low profile on this issue,” said Lin, who is president of the Taipei-based Foundation on International and Cross-Strait Studies. “Urged by Beijing, other powers such as Paris, Singapore, Tokyo, Canberra, Lon¬don and more have done the same in past months.” Lin said Chinese pressure on Bell, Boeing and Sikorsky reflects the same principle.
Air Show Antics
China’s drive to isolate Taiwan was evident in February at the Singapore Air Show. Chinese officials complained to the show’s organizers, who curtailed the participation of Taiwan’s state-run Aerospace Industrial Development Corp. (AIDC). AIDC makes Taiwan’s Indigenous Defense Fighter and has been manufacturing tail booms for Bell UH-1Y and AH-1Z helicopters for the U.S. Marine Corps.
Singapore Air Show officials said China forced them to order AIDC to remove brochures featuring their products. Airshow officials also used blue ink to cover Taiwan’s national emblem, the 12-pointed star, on a poster displaying fighter aircraft built by AIDC.
Airshow sales manager Lim Mei Ling told AIDC that Chinese officials had complained, AIDC senior manager Rocky Yao said. Four men were assigned to watch the booth to make sure AIDC did not hand out any brochures or display any national symbols. They remained at the booth for several hours, then were replaced by two men who identified themselves as mainland Chinese.
Lim refused to discuss the issue but did not deny issuing the order or assigning four men to monitor the booth.
She did issue a written response: “Singapore Airshow reserves the right to reject or prohibit any part of the exhibits at the airshow. We have taken action as the exhibitor has not complied to the previously agreed guidelines. This practice is consistent with the previous air¬shows held in Singapore.” According to sources, organizers did not clear a Bell 412 helicopter — carrying AIDC Chairman Kent Feng — to take off for a flight demonstration over the airfield. The aircraft, leased at a cost of $25,000 for the week, was hired to allow company executives to demonstrate products and reward suppliers — among them AIDC — for their work.
“It’s unfortunate that the Chinese assert pressure on the Singaporean government in this commercial event,” said Alexander Huang, a senior associate of the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies.
Arthur Ding, a cross-Strait military affairs expert at Taiwan’s National Chengchi University, called the action “childish” and an “over¬reaction.”
Singapore’s attitude to Taiwan is puzzling. Singapore has been sending Army personnel to Taiwan for training, and Taiwan was generous with training and support for Singapore’s fledgling Air Force and Navy when it first declared independence in 1965. China complains about this relationship, but a Singapore Ministry of Defense official said, “we just explain it to them that we’ve had a relationship with Taiwan on this issue for many years.” Yet at the Singapore airshow, Taiwan’s national flag was conspicuously absent from the row of national flags lining the airshow facility. Ironically, the flag of the British territory of Gibraltar was among those displayed at the show. ■
 
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