china vs al qaida

ravenshield936

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Al-Qaeda leader Abu Yahia al-Libi has called on Uighurs to launch a jihad against the Chinese authorities and has urged Muslims worldwide to support their co-religionists, a US monitoring group reported.

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quote They will experience that which the Russian bear experienced in terms of disintegration and division quote

"It is the duty of Muslims today to stand by the side of their wounded and wronged brothers in East Turkestan," Libi said in a video recording posted on an Islamist website, according to SITE Intelligence group.

East Turkestan is the name used by Al-Qaeda for China's Muslim-majority region of Xinjiang.

"Let our Muslim brothers in Turkestan know that there is no way for salvation and that there is no way to lift oppression and injustice but with truthful return to their faith and attachment to it as much as possible; to seriously prepare for jihad (holy war)," Libi said.

Wearing a white-and-red checkered turban and a vest, Libi also called on Muslims to launch a media campaign to raise awareness of what is happening in China and about the "atheist Chinese colonisation."

Libi said that the Turkic Muslim community is suffering from discrimination and pledged that the communist Chinese regime would face the same destiny as the former Soviet Union, which Islamist fighters had ferociously battled in Afghanistan.

"As for the state of atheism and stubbornness, it is [doomed] to extinction," he said. "They will experience that which the Russian bear experienced in terms of disintegration and division."

The Uighurs of Xinjiang province complain of cultural and religious discrimination practised against them by the Chinese state in the name of the fight against separatism.

Chinese authorities have said that riots in the Xinjiang city of Urumqi by Muslim Uighurs on July 5 killed 184 people - most of whom were Han, China's dominant ethnic group - and injured more than 1,600.

Uighur leaders accuse Chinese forces of opening fire on peaceful protests and say that Uighurs have been killed in subsequent mob attacks.

In July, Al-Qaeda threatened for the first time to attack Chinese interests overseas in retaliation for the deaths of Muslims in Xinjiang, risk analysis consultancy Stirling Assynt reported at the time.

The call, which came from the jihadist netork's North African arm, Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), was swiftly rejected by exiled Uighur leaders.

Rebiya Kadeer, the Washington-based head of the World Uighur Congress, said she opposed the use of violence in her campaign to bring greater rights for the ethnic group in Xinjiang.

Uighurs generally practise a moderate brand of Islam influenced by Sufi mysticism and earlier shamanistic traditions.

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Ohh if they really decide to mess with mother China, they will feel the ground tremble as tens of thousands of PLA swarm their mountains

You don't mess with the PLA. One suicide bomb against China will only create 5000 more...volunteered by PLA against them

China will crush them like nothing
 

A.Man

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If they pulled China into the mess, Al-Qaeda will be crushed by PLA in Afghanistan.

If the US allows it to happen, China is able to send 2-3 million armed men into Afghanistan.

Would Afghanistan become China's 33rd province?

They really f'cked with a wrong country at wrong place at wrong time for the wrong cause.
 
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Autumn Child

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Al qaida has dug themselve a grave.

China will add more pressure to pakistan and perhaps joined the afghanistan mission to eradicate al qaida and all its affiliate. Apparently religious fanatism has blinded them of basic strategy.

A few lives will be lost, but i am sure it will make the nation stronger and much more unified.

...time for PLA to get the much needed real combat experience.
 

SampanViking

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Not very much news on this. Until I can see or hear more about it, I will take it with a pinch of salt. Lets be honest a US Intelligence report being disseminated via the Indian media does not strike me as being the hardest possible currency;)
 

bd popeye

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Not very much news on this. Until I can see or hear more about it, I will take it with a pinch of salt. Lets be honest a US Intelligence report being disseminated via the Indian media does not strike me as being the hardest possible currency;)

Thanks for stepping in SampanViking. Gents read what S.Viking posted. It's the truth. I think this whole deal is drummed up by certain members of the news media.
 

Spike

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Doesn't look like official Chinese media has picked up on this story. Ironically there's a "World Media Summit" going on in Beijing right now.

Edit: CNN has also picked up the story.
Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war

updated 2:17 a.m. EDT, Fri October 9, 2009
From Saad Abedine
CNN

(CNN) -- A high-ranking al Qaeda leader has called on China's minority Uyghurs to prepare for a holy war against the Chinese government.

"There is no way for salvation and to lift this oppression and tyranny unless you ... seriously prepare for jihad in the name of God and carry your weapons against the ruthless brutal invader thugs," Abu Yahia Al-Libi said Wednesday in a video on an Islamist Web site. He delivered his message in Arabic.

The Uyghurs are Muslims in western China's Xinjiang province. Some Islamists refer to the region as East Turkistan.

Al-Libi's proclamation was in reaction to the violence that has recently shaken Urumqi, Xinjiang's capital. There, long-simmering resentment between minority Uyghurs and majority Han Chinese erupted into riots and left more than 200 people dead in July.

The following month, a series of stabbings -- with syringes used as weapons -- added to the unrest.

"What we saw and heard in the recent events in Turkistan was not accidental and didn't happen overnight. This is an intifada (an uprising) and a usual response to the decades of oppression, the organized cleansing and the systematic repression until the people had enough," Al-Libi said.

"This was not the first uprising that the oppressed Muslim people carried out, because they keep grieving and struggling to preserve their identity against the aggressors."

Chinese officials could not immediately be reached for comment Thursday.

Al-Libi regularly produces video messages and has, in the past, called on Pakistanis and Somalis to resist their "apostate" governments. He is considered one of al Qaeda's top strategists and one of its most vocal leaders in its propaganda campaign

In his latest message, Al-Libi called on Muslims worldwide to support the Uyghurs. And he vowed that China will suffer the same fate that the former Soviet Union did when it invaded Afghanistan in the 1980s -- only to be thwarted by Islamist fighters.

"To you, the state of atheism and obstinacy: You are coming to an end and you will face the same fate of the Russian bear of disintegration and division," he said. "You will encounter the same defeat when your nation will fight in its own backyard the humble minority of Muslims who are stronger in faith."

In July, a leader of an al Qaeda-linked group also denounced Chinese treatment of Uyghurs and threatened revenge.

The leader of the Turkistan Islamic Party, in a video on Islamic Web sites, blamed the Chinese for "genocide."

The speaker urged Uyghurs to "kill the Chinese communists where you find them, take them and besiege them and ambush them wherever you can."

The U.S. State Department said the group has taken credit for violence in the past.
 
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Mcsweeney

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China's response:

Beijing: China rejected Saturday Al-Qaida accusations of the suppressing of the Muslims in the country and vowed to work with other countries to deal with terror threat.

"Xinjiang has fully implemented the policies of equality of all ethnic minorities and religious freedom," said foreign ministry spokesperson Ma Chaoxu in a written statement.

Xinjiang's economy has realized sustainable, rapid and healthy development, and people of all ethnic groups in the region have shared the achievements in the social and economic development, said Ma.

The remarks came after Abu Yahya al-Libi, a prominent Al-Qaida militant, threatened to attack Chinese targets in "reprisal" for the July 5 riots in Urumqi, Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region and for the suppressing of Muslims.

"China has the confidence and capability to secure national security, and protect the safety of people's lives and properties," said the statement.

China will continue to cooperate with international community to deal with the threat of terrorism, said the spokesperson.

So they're opting to take the diplomatic road, denying any supression of muslims, but with a friendly "don't screw with us" remark at the end.
 

Quickie

Colonel
So now you see all the irresponsible reporting in some western news media, based on sensationalism rather than actual truths, is not really harmless, but rather can do very serious harm.

Otherwise, how else the Al-Qaeda are suddenly complaining the Uygurs are being suppressed, whereas the Uygurs were never in the Al-Qaeda's agenda previously?
 
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ravenshield936

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So now you see all the irresponsible reporting in some western news media, based on sensationalism rather than actual truths, is not really harmless, but rather can do very serious harm.

Otherwise, how else the Al-Qaeda are suddenly complaining the Uygurs are being suppressed, whereas the Uygurs were never in the Al-Qaeda's agenda previously?

agreed
Frigging western media
anyone with a sense of being aware of anti-china sentiments in the west+ the annual amounts of crapwestern media produces will understand what's going on
i was worried about al qaeda having responses shortly after that event that time, and i saw that time certain terrorists group vowed revenge, but i dismissed them as bluffs as they are small groups and insignificant.
however i feel this whole thing is not as simple as it seems. if this xinjiang attack was staged, then al qaeda's response can be said as their excuse to opening up a new front with PRC. this means that both events might have been connected, with the perpetrators of the xinjiang attack in connection with al qaeda. as for whether groups may have foreign assistance, funding and if possibly the use of western media, imo, is possible. if we connect where protests occurred outside of china, it's possible influences are present in those nations

however to me, until bin laden send one of this perverted videos, i will not believe al qaeda is officially in war with PRC, because it seems this spokesperson talked a lot of empty threats to many nations and nothing rarely comes out of it. his influence and symbol of power is not as significant as bin laden being the mastermind. lastly it's possible to rule internal strife within the org.

but w/e's the case, i think china responded appropiately
 
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bladerunner

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IMO The Uyghurs who want independence, given the choice, would rather maintain the status quo with China , than have the Taliban and AQ with their sharia law amongs't their community.
 
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