escobar
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PR is not primary about countries taking China side or not.
Yes, and some China ambassador threatening countries about huawei is not helping
China need a new geopolitical Doctrine ?
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PR is not primary about countries taking China side or not.
escobar
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But China is providing them more ammunition by how it react.
escobar
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Yes, the same and boring "we urge...". Even NK do a better job in narrative driven PR
Why does India like to think everything everyone does has to be about her? LOL
India's relation with Iran is in trouble because the former is acting more and more like a lackey of US, which is against Iran's core interest. What does that have got to do with China? If India is truly sincere in developing trade with Iran, no amount of US sanction can affect her.
If Iran matter really so much it India, then she should declare an even bigger trade/investment deal to link with Iran and do it in defiance of US, that will also show how brave India always hopes to portray herself to be.
I found this article that is highly relevant :
Hendrik_2000
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Talking about china role as stakeholder in the world. China is the largest contributor to UN peace keeping force and contribute to the fund as well. they also build road, bridges and school contributing to the infrastructure of African hinterland
The first batch of 212 peacekeepers of the 7th group of Chinese peacekeepers to returned home on Thursday after completing UN peacekeeping mission in the country. All the 413 members of the 7th Chinese peacekeeping force to Mali were awarded the UN Peace Medals of Honor.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't situation
China sometimes find itself caught in a dilemma: if it shies away from international affairs, some may accuse it of not shouldering its global responsibilities, and if it takes active part in international affairs, some may accuse it of being "assertive" and trying to reshape the world order.
Nevertheless, as its strong support for UN peacekeeping shows, China is determined to shoulder its global responsibilities. And with the United States retreating from the international organizations, China's efforts to strengthen the UN system and other global and multilateral bodies will help strengthen and sustain the world order.
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China takes the lead in UN peacekeeping
By He Yin | China Daily | Updated: 2019-09-26 07:36
Chinese peacekeepers to Lebanon parade at a medal-awarding ceremony at a camp in southern Lebanon, on April 6, 2018. [Photo/Xinhua]
Despite China's considerable contributions to United Nations peacekeeping, some foreign analysts downplay their significance, claiming its participation in peacekeeping is largely driven by a long list of pragmatic needs or interests, ranging from access to natural resources to reshaping the world order.
Currently, China has 2,534 military and police peacekeepers in seven of the 14 on-going UN peacekeeping operations, ranking 11th among the 122 contributors to UN peacekeeping and the largest contributor of peacekeepers among the five permanent UN Security Council members.
From small beginning to great contributions
Since first dispatching five military observers to the UN Truce Supervision Organization in 1990, China has contributed about 40,000 peacekeepers to 24 UN-commanded peacekeeping operations and special political missions in Africa, the Middle East, Southern Europe, Southeast Asia and Latin America.
China is also the second-largest contributor to UN's peacekeeping budget, accounting for 15.22 percent of about $7 billion in 2019, up from 10.28 percent in 2018. Also, China's assessment rate in terms of contribution to peacekeeping is higher than those of the other permanent Security Council members.
But some Western countries believe China has dispatched most of its peacekeepers to Africa because of its economic and security interests in the continent. It is true that more than 80 percent of Chinese peacekeepers are deployed in Africa, and the number of Chinese peacekeepers in the continent is higher than that of all the 32 industrialized states combined. But it is also true that most of the peacekeeping operations are in Africa, and more than 85 percent of all peacekeepers are deployed there.
Given the uncertainties over the safety and security of peacekeepers on African missions, many developed countries are reluctant to send their military personnel to Africa.
A realism-oriented policy analysis will present the full picture of China as an active peacekeeper, especially given China's rise over the past four decades, whereas a power politics-oriented policy analysis would ignore the severe security challenges peacekeeping missions face.
As the world's second-largest economy and a permanent UN Security Council member, China's pro-peacekeeping policy accords with its peaceful diplomacy. There are three core reasons behind China's strong support for UN peacekeeping: strengthening the UN and multilateralism, acting as a responsible country, and sharing common concerns of maintaining global peace and security.
Strengthening the UN and multilateralism
The UN is the largest and universal representative and authoritative inter-governmental organization in the world. And strong UN is in the interest of not only China but also the rest of the world. Therefore, China is committed to defending the UN's authority, promoting multilateralism, and opposing the unilateralism practiced by some Western powers.
China's rapid economic and social development has been lauded by many countries, but it has also become a source of unease for some.
While the international community expects a rising China to shoulder more responsibilities and do more for international peace and security, China's rise has also made some countries wary that China would follow in the footsteps of past global powers to pursue a hegemonic policy and threaten world peace and security.
But the fact is that China's peaceful rise needs a peaceful international environment, which is a major reason for China promoting peaceful diplomacy and supporting the UN to maintain global peace and security. As the largest exporter of manufactured goods and the largest importer of raw materials, China's prosperity depends heavily on overseas markets.
Besides, more and more Chinese enterprises and individuals are doing business abroad, including in places vulnerable to conflicts. China can feel the impact of conflict and instability even in a remote corner of the world.
In 2011, for instance, Libya fell into chaos overnight due partly to foreign intervention, and China had to use all means at its disposal to evacuate more than 50,000 Chinese nationals from that country. Still, Chinese enterprises lost commercial contracts worth billions of dollars signed with the former Muammar Gadhafi government.
Multilateralism, diversity essence of UN system
The essence of the UN system is multilateralism and diversity. Every UN member state, including China, has the obligation to help improve the peacekeeping regime so that regional and global challenges can be overcome and international peace and security maintained. China's peaceful rise is different from the violent rise of Western powers in the past, and carries many valuable lessons for the world.
As China plays an increasingly active role in reforming and improving the global governance system, the UN peacekeeping mechanism will greatly benefit from Chinese resources and wisdom.
In other words, in the future, China will contribute not only personnel and budget, but also "Chinese approaches" to peacekeeping.
In recent years, the peacekeeping mechanism has encountered unprecedented challenges. The UN has repeatedly reminded member states that a number of peacekeeping operations are being carried out in highly volatile places, and the strain on the UN's operational capability and support system is showing.
Against this background, many Western states' declining interest in peacekeeping, evident in their inadequate contributions to the peacekeeping force, has weakened the effectiveness of UN peace missions. As the West's liberal approach to peacekeeping has been unable to solve the increasingly complicated problems of peacekeeping and peace-building, non-Western states should be encouraged to make normative contributions to the peacekeeping mechanism.
China's contribution to UN peacekeeping is not an attempt to change the peacekeeping system; on the contrary, it is to strengthen and sustain it.
The first batch of 212 peacekeepers of the 7th group of Chinese peacekeepers to returned home on Thursday after completing UN peacekeeping mission in the country. All the 413 members of the 7th Chinese peacekeeping force to Mali were awarded the UN Peace Medals of Honor.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't situation
China sometimes find itself caught in a dilemma: if it shies away from international affairs, some may accuse it of not shouldering its global responsibilities, and if it takes active part in international affairs, some may accuse it of being "assertive" and trying to reshape the world order.
Nevertheless, as its strong support for UN peacekeeping shows, China is determined to shoulder its global responsibilities. And with the United States retreating from the international organizations, China's efforts to strengthen the UN system and other global and multilateral bodies will help strengthen and sustain the world order.
.
China takes the lead in UN peacekeeping
By He Yin | China Daily | Updated: 2019-09-26 07:36
Despite China's considerable contributions to United Nations peacekeeping, some foreign analysts downplay their significance, claiming its participation in peacekeeping is largely driven by a long list of pragmatic needs or interests, ranging from access to natural resources to reshaping the world order.
Currently, China has 2,534 military and police peacekeepers in seven of the 14 on-going UN peacekeeping operations, ranking 11th among the 122 contributors to UN peacekeeping and the largest contributor of peacekeepers among the five permanent UN Security Council members.
From small beginning to great contributions
Since first dispatching five military observers to the UN Truce Supervision Organization in 1990, China has contributed about 40,000 peacekeepers to 24 UN-commanded peacekeeping operations and special political missions in Africa, the Middle East, Southern Europe, Southeast Asia and Latin America.
China is also the second-largest contributor to UN's peacekeeping budget, accounting for 15.22 percent of about $7 billion in 2019, up from 10.28 percent in 2018. Also, China's assessment rate in terms of contribution to peacekeeping is higher than those of the other permanent Security Council members.
But some Western countries believe China has dispatched most of its peacekeepers to Africa because of its economic and security interests in the continent. It is true that more than 80 percent of Chinese peacekeepers are deployed in Africa, and the number of Chinese peacekeepers in the continent is higher than that of all the 32 industrialized states combined. But it is also true that most of the peacekeeping operations are in Africa, and more than 85 percent of all peacekeepers are deployed there.
Given the uncertainties over the safety and security of peacekeepers on African missions, many developed countries are reluctant to send their military personnel to Africa.
A realism-oriented policy analysis will present the full picture of China as an active peacekeeper, especially given China's rise over the past four decades, whereas a power politics-oriented policy analysis would ignore the severe security challenges peacekeeping missions face.
As the world's second-largest economy and a permanent UN Security Council member, China's pro-peacekeeping policy accords with its peaceful diplomacy. There are three core reasons behind China's strong support for UN peacekeeping: strengthening the UN and multilateralism, acting as a responsible country, and sharing common concerns of maintaining global peace and security.
Strengthening the UN and multilateralism
The UN is the largest and universal representative and authoritative inter-governmental organization in the world. And strong UN is in the interest of not only China but also the rest of the world. Therefore, China is committed to defending the UN's authority, promoting multilateralism, and opposing the unilateralism practiced by some Western powers.
China's rapid economic and social development has been lauded by many countries, but it has also become a source of unease for some.
While the international community expects a rising China to shoulder more responsibilities and do more for international peace and security, China's rise has also made some countries wary that China would follow in the footsteps of past global powers to pursue a hegemonic policy and threaten world peace and security.
But the fact is that China's peaceful rise needs a peaceful international environment, which is a major reason for China promoting peaceful diplomacy and supporting the UN to maintain global peace and security. As the largest exporter of manufactured goods and the largest importer of raw materials, China's prosperity depends heavily on overseas markets.
Besides, more and more Chinese enterprises and individuals are doing business abroad, including in places vulnerable to conflicts. China can feel the impact of conflict and instability even in a remote corner of the world.
In 2011, for instance, Libya fell into chaos overnight due partly to foreign intervention, and China had to use all means at its disposal to evacuate more than 50,000 Chinese nationals from that country. Still, Chinese enterprises lost commercial contracts worth billions of dollars signed with the former Muammar Gadhafi government.
Multilateralism, diversity essence of UN system
The essence of the UN system is multilateralism and diversity. Every UN member state, including China, has the obligation to help improve the peacekeeping regime so that regional and global challenges can be overcome and international peace and security maintained. China's peaceful rise is different from the violent rise of Western powers in the past, and carries many valuable lessons for the world.
As China plays an increasingly active role in reforming and improving the global governance system, the UN peacekeeping mechanism will greatly benefit from Chinese resources and wisdom.
In other words, in the future, China will contribute not only personnel and budget, but also "Chinese approaches" to peacekeeping.
In recent years, the peacekeeping mechanism has encountered unprecedented challenges. The UN has repeatedly reminded member states that a number of peacekeeping operations are being carried out in highly volatile places, and the strain on the UN's operational capability and support system is showing.
Against this background, many Western states' declining interest in peacekeeping, evident in their inadequate contributions to the peacekeeping force, has weakened the effectiveness of UN peace missions. As the West's liberal approach to peacekeeping has been unable to solve the increasingly complicated problems of peacekeeping and peace-building, non-Western states should be encouraged to make normative contributions to the peacekeeping mechanism.
China's contribution to UN peacekeeping is not an attempt to change the peacekeeping system; on the contrary, it is to strengthen and sustain it.
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escobar
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The reality is that China don't have many card to play. So they can't really take the initiative and have very few proactive option.
They have some card to play but it means they should be ready to pay the price. For now they are wainting for a Biden win to de-escalate tensions. But Trump gov aim to use tough actions to create a permanent state of tensions; they're working fast because they fear a Biden win and want to leave a legacy of ruptured ties.
They could even cut off diplomatic ties with China before November and recognize taiwan.
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The 25 yrs alliance with Iran and i believe there will an upcoming first time military station at gilgit Baltistan Pakistan watching over CPEC and Wakan corridior. See the connection there with iran?
I believe South China Sea will become less important.
I believe South China Sea will become less important.
China contemplating taking Dongsha from Taiwan and gauge US reaction.
There is no chance of that happening unless the U.S. carries out direct attacks against Chinese Islands.
manqiangrexue
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The incompetence is all in your arguments comprised entirely of defeated points. While the whole world watches America make mistakes and roll in the mud, your definition of good PR is for China to join the crowd of criticism they already have and zing their posts (with a comment that was likely already mentioned)? Tsk tsk, what terrible PR skills you have... When American posts already get destroyed with hecklers the instant they are posted, standing back and putting yourself on a higher level is a completely fine thing to do, and so is adding a few short and sweet comments, like Ms. Hua did. But jumping into the mud pit to wrestle a pig is just unnecessary dirty business.
Being silent is weak, "we urge" is weak, then threats are weak, and then actual reciprocal sanctions/actions are also weak/boring? LOL What's left for being strong? Nuclear strike? LOL
China's got the "trump" card; it's called growth and development. The US has a whole bunch of self-defeating roll-in-the-mud cards with no value; if they had a card as good as China's, they would be competing instead of trying to cheat and slander at every step.
Incorrect again. China wants a Trump win because that fractures the US from its allies. After Trump's incompetence, America's traditional allies are starved for the return to normalcy that Biden can offer. Zero sum game, Trump does the most self-harm while being ineffective at stymieing China.
The PRC was recognized over the ROC due to the realism that the ROC cannot possibly control or speak for China. The ultimate move of desperation is to try to escape reality.
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