China Mobile offshore base

no_name

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You can have modular blocks for the floating platform, with a belt of more heavily armoured blocks outside, and the ability to close them off and make them water-tight/ detach the unit when necessary. Then if your floating platform gets damaged just replaced the affected blocks.
 

SampanViking

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Well not wishing to blow my own trumpet:eek: but.....

A viewpoint shared back in 2009

http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/nav...uiser-becoming-obsolete-3-4441.html#post98502

Beyond that I also see the FAC having a greater role, based on some other developments which I think are likely in the coming decades. Principally, I suspect that we will see a move away from the kind of Carriers and other large support ships we see now, towards much larger facilites, which are moveable, rather than necessarily mobile and which combine with elements of Oil Rig construction to build large semi-permanent structures in International Waters - effectively artificial Islands on which full bases can be operated. This again would limit the need and scope for Destroyer sized ships and much bigger facilites can be built on base etc. It also seems a far more effective way of projecting power abroad than the current CVBG.
 

Jeff Head

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Well not wishing to blow my own trumpet:eek: but.....

A viewpoint shared back in 2009

http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/nav...uiser-becoming-obsolete-3-4441.html#post98502
That's okay. You were in good company.

The US began considering the Joint Mobile Offshore Base (JMOB) concept in detail during and particularly after Desert Storm in 1991. This was because of all of the negotiations and talk that had to go on to get agreement to build up the forces for Desert Shield and then Desert Storm. the US decided it would be a good thing to have bases of their own where they could do this if they were unable to secure approval. I heard about this in '92 or '93 and began following it. it is a pretty intriguing idea.

Then, in 2000, after a lot of thought and study, DOD made a presentation to the US Congress regarding it, indicating that it was feasible and that the US could construct such a structure. In 2001 this was followed up by another report to Congress by the Institute for Defense Analyses that estimated that such a base would cost something on the order of $5-8 billion dollars back then. some pretty serious consideration was being given in that time frame.

This got some attention at that point in the press and in 2003 in the April issue, the cover story in the Popular Mechanics Magazine was actually entitled, "Battle Island: Floating, Self-propelled Military Base Projects American Power Anywhere." Here's a link to the artcile:

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So, the idea has been around and researched and discussed seriously now for about 22 years..
 

Lion

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That's okay. You were in good company.

The US began considering the Joint Mobile Offshore Base (JMOB) concept in detail during and particularly after Desert Storm in 1991. This was because of all of the negotiations and talk that had to go on to get agreement to build up the forces for Desert Shield and then Desert Storm. the US decided it would be a good thing to have bases of their own where they could do this if they were unable to secure approval. I heard about this in '92 or '93 and began following it. it is a pretty intriguing idea.

Then, in 2000, after a lot of thought and study, DOD made a presentation to the US Congress regarding it, indicating that it was feasible and that the US could construct such a structure. In 2001 this was followed up by another report to Congress by the Institute for Defense Analyses that estimated that such a base would cost something on the order of $5-8 billion dollars back then. some pretty serious consideration was being given in that time frame.

This got some attention at that point in the press and in 2003 in the April issue, the cover story in the Popular Mechanics Magazine was actually entitled, "Battle Island: Floating, Self-propelled Military Base Projects American Power Anywhere." Here's a link to the artcile:

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So, the idea has been around and researched and discussed seriously now for about 22 years..

With US gaining foothold in Iraq and Afghanistan. The need for such base diminished even more. And the rise of china plus threat of north korea further making US presence in Okinawa more relevant.

But that kind of luxury is not available for PRC. No country is willing to allow sensitive issue of PRC foreign base station there.
Mobile offshore is the only way.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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Unless there is a treaty no one told of, once the US pulls out of Afganistan we are out for good and there is no long term case in Iraq.
 

paintgun

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if i'm a sailor or a navy guy, i couldn't imagine a worse base to be posted in, at least on a border island, it doesn't sink
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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[qoute]....at least on a border island, it doesn't sink[/QUOTE]
When the environmentalist attach your private parts to the solar battery remember I am with you in spirit brother.
 
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pendragon

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Any such large scale project is only needed in al large scale static situation. With modern war escalating and moving rapidly, by the time such a construction is in its place and operational, first generartion of combatant of the conflict wil probably have terired!

Woody's solution, a number of serious airstrips and deepwater ports around the world without specific military use that can however be turned into miltary installations within days, is far more effective. In peacetime such installation are far less offending and threatening to neutrals and allies, but still retain their silent warning; more in style with PRC's external policy. Even a number of befriended countries in strategic locations which would allow stationning of non combat provisions (fuel, water, medical, food, ...) could be a great help. This way standard replenishment ships would not need to return all the way back home te refill. A ship acting as a combat warehouse could be stationned in international waters closeby and itself be replenished from the friendly base.
 

paintgun

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Any such large scale project is only needed in al large scale static situation. With modern war escalating and moving rapidly, by the time such a construction is in its place and operational, first generartion of combatant of the conflict wil probably have terired!

Woody's solution, a number of serious airstrips and deepwater ports around the world without specific military use that can however be turned into miltary installations within days, is far more effective. In peacetime such installation are far less offending and threatening to neutrals and allies, but still retain their silent warning; more in style with PRC's external policy. Even a number of befriended countries in strategic locations which would allow stationning of non combat provisions (fuel, water, medical, food, ...) could be a great help. This way standard replenishment ships would not need to return all the way back home te refill. A ship acting as a combat warehouse could be stationned in international waters closeby and itself be replenished from the friendly base.

in other words, just like what the US does

the merit of speed and tactical mobility, and the absence of such elements in this proposal is what would have and will kill it
Other than the missile magnet and force concentration target line of argument
 
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