Is it really heat caused by friction? I would think at those speeds it would be mostly adiabatic heating like spacecraft reentry. I wonder at what speed does it go from being mostly adiabatic heating to mostly frictional heating.
China IRBM/SRBM (and non-ICBM/SLBM) thread
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I agree the Granit missile belongs in a museum not on the battlefield.
Their limited range is a severe liability.
In a WW3 "Battle of Midway 2.0" scenario an anti-ship missile launched from the VLC of a surface combatant with a range of less than 1,000 km is going to be insufficient.
The zircon has a range of 1,000 km and the YJ-21 has a range of 1,500 km
When the first warship gets sunk by an anti-ship missile fired from 1000 km away, it will be a Loud wake up call.
It will go down in the military history books, similar to how the first aircraft carrier sank a battleship or the first ironclad ship sank a wooden sailing warship. Every nation on this planet with a navy will make a mad scramble to upgrade the range of their missiles.
In a peer to peer fight, an anti-ship missile launched from a surface combatant with a range of less than 1000km is a Liability not an asset.
4 patriots that are at least modernized pac-2 missiles all missing a iskander. And this iskander was moving quite slowly. Now I can see how worthless even THAAD would be against DF-26's with alot more energy in it. 95% of interceptions would be exo-thermic, yet almost 85% of Iranian ballistic missiles made it past isreali exo-thermic systems. And with much less advanced systems, ballistic missile systems being proven it's worth compared to cruise missiles again massively.
Why do you think the Israelis returned their Patriot batteries? Patriot is only useable against much slower aircraft. Even then it is seriously flawed. It does not have 360 degree coverage. Which is why it couldn't even defend Saudi refineries against Houti cruise missiles.
Iran is supposed to have 30k missiles. How many does plarf have?
Lmao, Iran has—or rather, had—maybe 3,000 missiles tops if you count all the piddly small stuff.
I seem to recall there was a twitter meme about extrapolating annual production over decades to get 30,000?
If we count SRBM, MRBM, IRBM then Iran would have a few hundred to maybe 1 or 2 thousand missiles. They are mostly launched in facilities tunneled into mountains and TELs. TELs are extremely exposed and the Israelis allege a great number of TELs have been destroyed.
China's industrial capacity for manufacturing ballistic missiles would be many hundred times Iran's. China's energy resources, raw materials, wealth to purchase necessary materials is a thousand time Iran's thanks to the imposed isolation of Iran. Unfortunately they could only rely on themselves and mustering the ability to produce as many if not more ballistic missiles than India is an impressive feat. However, ballistic missiles alone are not going to do much damage. You need an airforce and navy if you dont border the land you are at war with. Iran's army isn't able to cross into Israel and it has no airforce or navy that could present as a threat to the US plus Israel.
Ballistic missiles would assist in widespread military action. There wasn't any. Iran was just bumping through their missile reserves to hit one city. That was their trump card... they've played it and it just pissed off the Israelis.
Iran has already fired several hundred ballistic missiles in True Promise 1/2/3.
I think Iran might have a couple thousand missiles. Most will be 500km range.
The Iranian TELs look just like a regular truck with a trailer when in the travel position. Unless Israel or the US want to blow up all trucks and trailers in Iran they won't get all the TELs either.
This is unlike Chinese or Russian TELs which use distinctive off-road capable military trucks.
I think Iran might have a couple thousand missiles. Most will be 500km range.
The Iranian TELs look just like a regular truck with a trailer when in the travel position. Unless Israel or the US want to blow up all trucks and trailers in Iran they won't get all the TELs either.
This is unlike Chinese or Russian TELs which use distinctive off-road capable military trucks.
Are you sure it isn't closer to :
Netanyahu Iranian missile inventories could reach 20,000 in six years:
Almost needless to say, a pre-conflict magazine depth of 30,000 is impossible, unless someone is counting oranges instead of apples.
How many does China have? US DOD numbers show China barely has 2 reloads for things like df-26 and df-21d, which doesn't make sense.