China IRBM/SRBM (and non-ICBM/SLBM) thread

[defect]

Hot launch also give the ability to remove the missile if it fails to launch. If you use cold launch, it will eject the missile and explode near by.

I've heard or read a Patriot soldier/technician report, that was involved with the incident.

Cold launch also looks way cooler! Not that it matters.

I apologize for the off.

 

[Iron Man]

I noticed that everyone has been discussing a lot about using conventional ballistic missiles to target fleets as far as the Second Island Chain and beyond. However, I have two questions regarding this matter:

1. When deploying large numbers of conventional anti-ship ballistic missiles with ranges approaching or even reaching intercontinental levels, could this trigger nuclear misjudgment and subsequently lead to nuclear escalation?

I think in today's day and age with lots of countries especially China possessing (less-than-ICBM-range) ballistic missile capabilities, the threshold for nuclear miscalculation is thankfully likely to be higher than it would have been during the Cold War. If China launches 2 dozen DF-26s at Guam, the US is probably going to assume a conventional rather than a nuclear attack, for example. OTOH if one of those warheads turns out to be nuclear, the US is obviously going to assume every ballistic missile from then on is nuclear until proven otherwise.

2. Whether from Cold War experience or today"s context, detecting and tracking aircraft carriers remains crucial (one might argue it"s even more important than striking them). During the DF-21D era, we developed the WJ-8 as part of its supporting systems. Although space-based capabilities and other confirmed reconnaissance methods have emerged and strengthened, I believe stable tracking near the First Island Chain is feasible, but I have doubts about capabilities in more distant areas.

I"d like to hear everyone"s thoughts on these two issues.

I actually wouldn't even be remotely surprised if the Chinese military could now monitor the entire WestPac and nearby regions, i.e. Eastern Indian Ocean/Bay of Bengal, Singapore/Malacca Straits, Indonesia, PNG, Korea, Japan, Kurils, the Philippines, Australia, NZ, Guam, etc. by satellite. That entire strip of the world would need to be monitored for USN activity, especially in the leadup to a go at AR by China.

 

[by78]

H-6 carrying an ASBM.

 

[HardBall]

H-6 carrying an ASBM.

Интересно, на какой высоте в атмосфере будет уровень выброса ракеты. Если это аэробаллистическая ракета, то дальности должно быть достаточно для запуска за пределами зоны раннего предупреждения авианосной группы. Если это гиперзвуковой планирующий летательный аппарат, то, я думаю, это будет зависеть от конечного профиля атаки снаряда

 

[antiterror13]

you should write your question in English

 

[HardBall]

you should write your question in English

Ah; sorrry, sometimes it slips my mind that this is an English only forum.

Anyways, I was just asking about whether the launch profile looks more like aeroballistic or HGV, and how that might affect the potential range of the kill vehicle.

 

[Jason_]

H-6 carrying an ASBM.

This is not an ASBM. This is a (mock up of) nuclear air launched ICBM forming China's airborne leg of the nuclear triad.

 

[tamsen_ikard]

Many people are saying that the missile carried is the yj-21 which is derived from df-21. But as far as I know, df-21 has a relatively short range of about 1700km. Is this huge missile really a df-21 sized missile or is it bigger, let's say df-26 sized missile?

 

[nativechicken]

This is not an ASBM. This is a (mock up of) nuclear air launched ICBM forming China's airborne leg of the nuclear triad.

The warhead on the way cannot reach intercontinental range. This missile has only two stages, with the first stage being shorter and having a maximum range of 5000km, similar to the Dongfeng-26.

Many people are saying that the missile carried is the yj-21 which is derived from df-21. But as far as I know, df-21 has a relatively short range of about 1700km. Is this huge missile really a df-21 sized missile or is it bigger, let's say df-26 sized missile?

This missile does look about the same size as Dongfeng 21, or even slightly larger. The length of the missile is approximately 13-14 meters.
From the diagram, it appears that the first stage rocket is relatively small, which is also normal because the launch speed of the airborne ballistic missile should be 0.6-0.8 Mach at an altitude of over 10000 meters. This way, the first stage can carry less fuel. So this missile should have a range of 3500-4000km, with a maximum possible range of 4500-5000km (DF26 specification). If the third stage is equipped with a nuclear warhead (with a total weight of 300-500kg) and a liquid power system (1.6-2.1t), the range should be able to reach 8000-10000km

 

[qywi5u8s]

你知道火箭军泄密事件吗？