China has keeped in peace nearly 30 years

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Well China has given up its claim to South Siberia and recognised Russian control of it, so territory claimed by the Qing Dynasty isn't relevant any more.

Your statement makes absolutely no sense watsoever. It is like the difference between American control of Texas and American claims in British Columbia...
 

kickars

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Well China has given up its claim to South Siberia and recognised Russian control of it, so territory claimed by the Qing Dynasty isn't relevant any more.

Hi FuManChu, UK has given up India, US, South Africa....... So, does that mean UK's control of Northern Ireland and Falkland aren't relevant any more? No, of coz not! So please everyone just stop talking about politics now! Coz in politics nobody is RIGHT or WRONG!!! Why people can't just understand this simple truth??? Let just talk about pure military from now on!
 
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Your statement makes absolutely no sense watsoever.

No, it makes perfect sense. If China has recognised Russian control of land claimed under Qing government, then that means the concerns of the current leadership take precedent over what people back then thought. I never said China can't claim any of those lands - I said harping on about what people thought over a century ago isn't relevant to the discussion.

It is like the difference between American control of Texas and American claims in British Columbia...

I'm British, not American - so funnily enough my knowledge of American territorial disputes is patchy.

Hi FuManChu, UK has given up India, US, South Africa....... So, does that mean UK's control of Northern Ireland and Falkland aren't relevant any more?

If I was having a discussion over British sovereignty issues, I wouldn't drag up claims made in the 19th century to justify my position.
 
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kickars

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Sure, nobody should talk about things happened 100-300 years ago. Coz that won't do us any good. We should see what we can do best at the moment and in the future. And may I get everyone back to the original topic of this thread? It's about China has kept in peace for NEARLY 30 YEARS! If anyone of you want to talk about Chinese history or even time between 1949 and 1978, then may I suggest you start another different thread under 'Chinese Military History' section. Coz this thread really is about 80s forward China!!!
 

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No personal attack from both sides, please! You will only make the other sides more pissed off!

The guy was obviously just playing dumb saying he's not an American to avoid talking abt the American example. I just use the same logic to question his knowledge abt Chinese issues.
 
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The guy was obviously just playing dumb saying he's not an American to avoid talking abt the American example.

Schumacher, how many Britons do you think know about that sort of stuff? Why should I know about it? I shouldn't, so quit complaining.

I just use the same logic to question his knowledge abt Chinese issues.

No, you were making a cheap shot and disrupting the thread even more.
 
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bd popeye

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Gentlemen, let's rein in the unnecessary banter here. It doesn't matter who somebody is, as long as they can make a point then location, ethnicity, language spoken etc. is irrelevant. Likewise, if the point is null then you SHOULD be able to refute it with facts without resorting to pointless flame-baiting. Frankly I don't see this topic going anywhere constructive. Keep it up and it'll just get closed.

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