China Flanker Thread II

[Deino]

A line of J-16s belonging to the Eastern Theater Command.

Looks like from the 7th Brigade ..

 

[A.Man]

Looks like from the 7th Brigade ..

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The Old 3rd Division has always got good staffs first.

 

[by78]

Just a very nice image of a J-16 in low-visibility scheme.

 

[xyqq]

J-11BS flight preparation:



Final check:



Taxi:



Waiting:



Takeoff:

 

[xyqq]

A brigade of J-11BS:



Though the number of the nearest plane got erased, those in the background "survived":



Formation of eight J-11BS:

 

[The Observer]

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Interesting new article about Su-27 and J-11 history (unfortunately in mandarin, I used a translator to read it).

a few interesting points from the article if I understand it correctly:
1. PLAAF actually bought 78 original Su-27 from Russia (36 Su-27SK + 42 Su-27UBK). Then, they license it as J-11 (105 airframes bought as kits and assembled in China). After that 105 licensed airframe, PLAAF decided to switch to J-11B from Shenyang.
2. The article claims that to compensate the Russians for the switch (no words about the original contract, but I believe our consensus is ~200 licensed airframe were planned but only ~100 made), China bought 76 Su-30MKK for PLAAF and 24 Su-30MK2 for PLAN (100 airframes).

Tl;dr: PLAAF might have 78 more Su-27 than I thought (although only in the old original form), then interesting new info about the renegotiation of the Su-27 license (China bought Su-30 to compensate Russia for the breach of license contract).

 

[FishWings]

Is this the first time we've been given an image of a J-16 with two MRAAMs in the centreline pylons? Can't remember if intake pylons can do that as well. That's capability to carry at least eight PL-15s with two PL-10s. Possibly ten PL-15s with two PL-10s.

Not exactly what you are asking for, but I believe J-15s have been spotted carrying PL-12s on the intake pylons, and the PL-15 is only slightly longer than the PL-12. So it should be reasonable to conclude that the J-16 can also carry the PL-12, and therefore also PL-15, on the intake pylons.

In any case, the J-16 was seen w/ PL-15s on centerline pylons as early as late 2017, but possibly even earlier. Live missiles too.

 

[halflife3]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1349678927489318912

Plant 112 (SAC) in Shenyang flies its first J-16 fighter-bomber in 2021.

 

[xyqq]

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Interesting new article about Su-27 and J-11 history (unfortunately in mandarin, I used a translator to read it).

a few interesting points from the article if I understand it correctly:
1. PLAAF actually bought 78 original Su-27 from Russia (36 Su-27SK + 42 Su-27UBK). Then, they license it as J-11 (105 airframes bought as kits and assembled in China). After that 105 licensed airframe, PLAAF decided to switch to J-11B from Shenyang.
2. The article claims that to compensate the Russians for the switch (no words about the original contract, but I believe our consensus is ~200 licensed airframe were planned but only ~100 made), China bought 76 Su-30MKK for PLAAF and 24 Su-30MK2 for PLAN (100 airframes).

Tl;dr: PLAAF might have 78 more Su-27 than I thought (although only in the old original form), then interesting new info about the renegotiation of the Su-27 license (China bought Su-30 to compensate Russia for the breach of license contract).

A Su-27UBK followed by a J-11A:



Su-27UBK close-up:



J-11A takeoff:



Only the yellow text is readable under J-11A's canopy: Immediately after the flight, check the reading marked "T" (probably for "tank"), and determine the refueling amount of the "basic" refueling plan.

 

[Temstar]

1500kg bombs for Su-30MKK, imported from Russia.






Last three pictures are training rounds that accept the same input as the real deal, but doesn't actually get dropped and instead simulates the trajectory optically.