China Flanker Thread II

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Biscuits

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Long term, they can slowly upgrade the whole fleet to J-16 standard.

Without changing the airframe significantly, the Flanker variants have reached a dead end with J-16. It is now time to focus on 5th gen, in particular explore less costly designs.

Although, many years later, it is possible that some super flanker will be built for export, like the JF-17 was born from a super J-7 concept with significant airframe redesign.
 

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Russia completes deliveries of SU-35 fighter aircraft to China
Gabriel Dominguez, London and Dmitry Fediushko, Moscow - Jane's Defence Weekly
16 April 2019
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A PLAAF Su-35 fighter in 2018 taking part in what China described as a “joint combat patrol” over the South China Sea. Moscow said on 16 April that it had completed the delivery of 24 Su-35s to China. Source: Chinese MND
Russia has completed the delivery of 24 Sukhoi Su-35 'Flanker-E' multirole fighter aircraft to China's People's Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF), an official from Russia's Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSVTS) told Jane's on 16 March.

"The delivery of those platforms to the PRC has been completed," said the official, without revealing when exactly the final batch of aircraft was delivered.

Russian defence conglomerate Rostec had previously been quoted as saying that China had received the first 4 Su-35 platforms in 2016 and a further 10 in 2017 as part of a contract for 24 aircraft estimated to be worth about USD2.5 billion.

In November 2015, Rostec announced that Beijing had signed the contract to purchase the Su-35s, making China the first foreign customer of the Russian-built aircraft, which is claimed to be an upgraded and highly manoeuvrable '4++ generation' fighter with characteristics and performance close to those of upcoming 'fifth-generation combat aircraft'.

The Russian-Sino agreement reportedly includes not only the sale of the aircraft but also the delivery of, among other things, ground support equipment and spare engines, with a military-diplomatic source telling Jane's on 16 April that the contract is expected to be fully implemented by 2020.

"Some additional subsystems, including ground-support hardware, have yet to be delivered. The customer will have received all the pieces of equipment by the end of the next year," said the source.

A PLAAF source told Jane's that the service would receive a large armament suite for the aircraft. "The Su-35 will be complemented by air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles, as well as unguided rockets, guided bomb units and unguided bombs. The fighters will carry R-27 (AA-10 'Alamo'), R-73 (AA-11 'Archer'), and RVV-family [air-to-air] missiles and Kh-35E (AS-20 'Kayak') anti-ship missiles," he said.

China's Ministry of National Defense (MND) confirmed in April 2018 that the Su-35 had officially entered service with the PLAAF.
 

enroger

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The radome has some sort of saw tooth pattern indicate stealth treatment? Then it would make sense if they apply some treatment to the intake as well say a radar blocker. I hope all this can be applied to J-11b without major structural change, it simply doesn't make sense to build brand new air frames at this point, especially if it takes engines that could otherwise be used for J-20.
 

by78

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Assuming this isn't PSed, what variant is this? The nose radome doesn't have a pitot tube. Only J-15D and J-11D so far don't feature a nose pitot tube. This obviously isn't a J-15D, so I'm leaning toward J-11D, but the radome doesn't look right. Perhaps PSed after all?

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SinoSoldier

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Assuming this isn't PSed, what variant is this? The nose radome doesn't have a pitot tube. Only J-15D and J-11D so far don't feature a nose pitot tube. This obviously isn't a J-15D, so I'm leaning toward J-11D, but the radome doesn't look right. Perhaps PSed after all?

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The WS-10 nozzles should narrow the possibilities down. It looks like a J-16 with its grey radome appearing black due to the combined effect of the sun and camera exposure.
 

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Assuming this isn't PSed, what variant is this? The nose radome doesn't have a pitot tube. Only J-15D and J-11D so far don't feature a nose pitot tube. This obviously isn't a J-15D, so I'm leaning toward J-11D, but the radome doesn't look right. Perhaps PSed after all?

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I agree with @SinoSoldier ... IMO clearly a J-16 with its grey pitot-less radome, the PL-10 pylons on the wing-tips and WS-10 engines. In fact it fits only to a J-16.
 
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