Those scoring results are the ones of Isreali claiming...i suggest you look into the matter bit more carefully and you will find out that the "unbeatable" IDF isen't so invincible after all...good starting point would be ACIG.org
Best Trained Air Force Pilots
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FriedRiceNSpice
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EternalVigil said:
First of Russia is not on "our side." Russia is the one making money here...
And even though the Iranian air force can be destroyed quickly, a land war will be a nightmare of the US of A.
And Germany, France, and Canada all have better training than India, Russia, and China in terms both quantative (flight time) and qualitive (technical and technologically).
EternalVigil
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Russia is on our side in refering Iran to the UNSC if they dont let russia control the flow of enriching Uranium and plutonium. Putin already told Bush that last week during the asian leaders summit. Trust me no one wants Iran to have a nuclear weapon(and we all know thats what its for because they set on a sea of oil for energy purposes) when they threaten to wipe Israel off the map and chant death to America and Israel on a daily basis. They also support more terrorist organizations than any government in the world with Syria running a close second. It could start world war 3 if they launched a nuke at Israel. Its not going to happen. The US wouldnt have a ground war in Iran, we would just destroy all military,nuclear, and communication assets until they sued for peace or until they tried to cross into Iraq or Afghanistan. I hope it never comes to that but Israel will not be destroyed as long as the US is around. China and India would eat Canada's and France's lunch in an air war.
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I think the original question was "best trained air force pilots" and not "country with most victorious fighter aces" ?
Not all AF around the world use same doctrine in training. One interesting comparison is number of pilots PER aircraft. The Soviet Union was known to have pilot to aircraft ratio of 3:1, depending on the type of aircrat, with each pilot getting 120 to 130 hours of flying per year.
NATO countries at the time was known to prefer a pilot to aircraft ratio of 1.5:1, with each pilot getting 180 to 200 hours of flying per year.
So we have an interesting situation where, the Soviets were putting more hours into each aircraft's airframe than NATO countries, but their pilots had fewer flying hours per year. In terms of resource expenditure you could say the Soviets spent more PER aircraft, versus NATO spent more PER pilot.
Not all AF around the world use same doctrine in training. One interesting comparison is number of pilots PER aircraft. The Soviet Union was known to have pilot to aircraft ratio of 3:1, depending on the type of aircrat, with each pilot getting 120 to 130 hours of flying per year.
NATO countries at the time was known to prefer a pilot to aircraft ratio of 1.5:1, with each pilot getting 180 to 200 hours of flying per year.
So we have an interesting situation where, the Soviets were putting more hours into each aircraft's airframe than NATO countries, but their pilots had fewer flying hours per year. In terms of resource expenditure you could say the Soviets spent more PER aircraft, versus NATO spent more PER pilot.
Eternalvirgil, As a sort of an getleman agreement we no longer allow countrybrashing threads towards USA but it also means little co-operation from your side...don't flame this discussion to political BS contest. What you said to Issa (whose Iranian and if someone would mock my country in ways that you did...well...:nono: ) was very low and biased provocation and i and rest of the mod/adm team would appreciate that we all can focus solely on the military side of this issue...
Seriously, we should try to get away from these type of threads. It solves nothing and are worthless. It only results in flaming and banning.
Anyway, the best answer to which country has the best pilot training is, "in what context?"
Dogfighting, how to operate as a combined arms, bombing, ability to operate avionics well, etc....Though they are not as glamorous as dogfighting, the ability ot operate as a combined arms, interoperability, learning to streamline communications between combat assets, survellence, and command, aerial refueling, and knowing the advantages and disadvantages of your equipment are the ones that win wars.
Oh about that Israeli vs US navy pilots, the key question to asked is, what were the constraint the US and Israeli pilots were operating under? Were they allowed AEW support, BVR engagement, and jamming? Were they operating the full capability of their aircraft or were they simulating the capability of Israel's most probable opponent? War games are meant to be scripted to address a particular issue and improve on it.
Anyway, the best answer to which country has the best pilot training is, "in what context?"
Dogfighting, how to operate as a combined arms, bombing, ability to operate avionics well, etc....Though they are not as glamorous as dogfighting, the ability ot operate as a combined arms, interoperability, learning to streamline communications between combat assets, survellence, and command, aerial refueling, and knowing the advantages and disadvantages of your equipment are the ones that win wars.
Oh about that Israeli vs US navy pilots, the key question to asked is, what were the constraint the US and Israeli pilots were operating under? Were they allowed AEW support, BVR engagement, and jamming? Were they operating the full capability of their aircraft or were they simulating the capability of Israel's most probable opponent? War games are meant to be scripted to address a particular issue and improve on it.
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FriedRiceNSpice
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I found this on the 2nd link:
Is this true?
Do you guys have any other sources confirming this?
Is this true?
Do you guys have any other sources confirming this?
Now this is a thread renewed.
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I don't want anyone to comment on the bashings that came before RogerWillco's post two days ago. If I find anyone commenting and worsening the bashing situation before that post while we mods are deleting the posts, the guy gets a warning and will be out for a week.