the armours and weapons use during TK are identical to Chin's terra cotta warriors and smaller's terra cotta warriors from the han's dynasty,
Battle of Red Cliff, the Movie
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the armours and weapons use during TK are identical to Chin's terra cotta warriors and smaller's terra cotta warriors from the han's dynasty,
sinowarrior
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its really a bad movie, both the fightings and story are awful
Autumn Child
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Some of the battle definitely has the rtk feel to it (especially the turtle formation). For example Guan Yu single handedly killed more than 30 soldiers in close quarter fighting.
Schumacher
Senior Member
Never expected much from a John Woo movie anyway. Just look at 'Hulk' & 'Face Off' etc, nothing but some stunts & special effects really. But one way or another, such movies will score big in the box office.
John Woo didn't do Hulk. That was Ang Lee of Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, Sense and Sensibility and Brokeback Mountain.
John Woo is noted for action movies, and I kind of expect him to go that way in this movie. He may try to pamper the "historically accurate" crowd, but cannot escape the need to pamper the RTK/Dynasty Warriors crowd in Hong Kong, Taiwan, S. Korea, Japan and the US. I seem to note that in the trailers, Guan Yu for example, carries his legendary Guandao, although serious historians don't consider this type of weapon to exist in the TK era (has to be at least Song and post-Song Dynasty).
John Woo is noted for action movies, and I kind of expect him to go that way in this movie. He may try to pamper the "historically accurate" crowd, but cannot escape the need to pamper the RTK/Dynasty Warriors crowd in Hong Kong, Taiwan, S. Korea, Japan and the US. I seem to note that in the trailers, Guan Yu for example, carries his legendary Guandao, although serious historians don't consider this type of weapon to exist in the TK era (has to be at least Song and post-Song Dynasty).
hanqiang1011
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Cao Cao tied up his battleships because his seeming invincible infantry + cavalry troops were all northerners... northen people usually dont know how to swim and being long period on land, they had sea sickness when on board the battleships. Thus he (dont know which one of his military stategtists gave him the idea) ordered all ships to be chained up to create a land-on-sea so that his soldier would not suffer from sick sickness.
The people from the south from Eastern Wu were skilled in swimming and naval warfare because there living areas were around rivers and coastal area. They had gotten used to the sea conditions (monsoon wind, naval fighting...etc).
It was either Zhuge Liang or Zhou Yu that came up with the idea of burning away Cao Cao's ship due to the fact that all ships were chained from ship to ship. Thus when unleashing the tactics of using fire, the ships would burnt from one on till the other spreading rapidly fast due to the wind condition.
As for the movie, it is not historical accurate at all. In actual facts, only Zhuge Liang was sent to Eastern Wu, not the entire Shu Factions character were there.
The movie is just to dramatised the event.
Nevertheless, IT IS still an epic. It has long overdue that the Chinese film industry had this kind of epic movie. Apart from some of the casts (which I do not know why John wanted Japanese actors in the casts), the battle scenes were great and both Takeshi and Tony Leong are 2 great actors to watch.
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Which Japanese actors? Kaneshiro is no stranger to Chinese movies, having been there in the House of Flying Daggers. He got in because Tony Leung quit the Zhuge Liang role, and then Chow Yun Fat quit the Zhou Yu rule, Tony Leung changed his mind and took over the Zhou Yu role and Kaneshiro, Leung's costar in Flying Daggers, got the Zhuge Liang role. I think it worked to the best, Kaneshiro and Leung seems to have good working chemistry with each other. Woo won't be having to deal with prima donnas as you can expect with big name actors like Chow Yun Fat, who completes the trinity of big ego internationally known Chinese actors, Jet Li and Jackie Chan being the other two.
Nakamura Shido is also no stranger to Chinese movie productions, having played the Japanese fighter in Fearless.
Nakamura Shido is also no stranger to Chinese movie productions, having played the Japanese fighter in Fearless.
FriedRiceNSpice
Captain
Kaneshiro is Taiwanese by nationality and half-Taiwanese half-Japanese by ethnicity.... all my female friends are in love with him like white girls love Orlando Bloom.
He was a badass in Battle of Wits and Warlords.
He was a badass in Battle of Wits and Warlords.