or perhaps soldiers from country B do not use laser aims at all
So who is actually more skilled? The guys who need laser aims or the guys who can shoot just as accurately without?
because it is actually that way, SOFs in PLA is distributed and subordinated to each MR, perhaps someone more authoritative on this matter can disprove me or convince you, not that i think if they are structured this way they must be not up to par, but again this is an unfamiliar practice in other SOFs
The bulk of the PLA's SOF may be distributed to the MRs, but there are still national SOF units that pull their men from the best of the MRs. The Second Arty's special forces would be a prime example of a national or service level special forces unit. The navy's special forces would also count as a national level force, although they probably have a much smaller selection pool since their members would likely only come from the marines.
My point is that having MR level special forces says absolutely nothing about how well trained or effective national level special forces are.
well you don't, but you can compare equipments, and equipment is an important part of training, and show what you're skilled with
So how much extra training to you need to use an optical sight or laser aimer?
Much of the equipment you listed in your last past is performance aid equipment. The whole point of having them is to reduce the skill requirement level yet still be able to achieve the desired effectiveness.
well PLA still uses NATO rounds for competitions, it is a tell tale of how good your rounds are, some countries even tried to mask it with using foreign round in their homemade package
What are you talking about? How about some examples please?
again ask someone more authoritative if i don't convince you, CDF guys perhaps, as some of them handled Chinese firearms and has had some comments on them
Unless they are active military, they would have only handled export civilian grade stuff. Hardly representative of what the PLA uses.
they carry swords or DaDao(s) as captioned in those pics for showmanship value, as the whole shots are for TV,
That is plain wrong. PLA personnel might pose for pictures or show off certain kit, but they have never carried non standard equipment just for the cameras.
they didn't wear helmets although they carry a whole rucksack as to appear different, or elite, again for showmanship,
Do you honestly not realize that is how they train and will deploy?
Such large loads are standard fare when SOF units deploy into the field for protracted periods. It is common practice all over the world to train with massive packs to simulate the kinds of loads SOF soldiers would be expected to carry in the field.
It just seems like you have gotten it stuck in your head that Chinese SOF are crap and are just looking for any excuse to try and reinforce that view.
why put on googles without helmets,
Do you seriously not know? Goggles protect your eyes, helmets protect your skull. Since when has the two ever been co-dependent?
Special forces rarely wear ballistic helmets because of the weight bulk. US special forces only wear sports helmets to protect against bumps and knocks when they are deploying from helos. When they deploy in jungle or tropics on foot, they also don't wear helmets.
and it's also notoriously well known that the googles PLA provide to the troops are not military grade ones
The US and NATO did not issue it's troops with combat goggles at all until recently when they have been actively deployed.
You do realize that you are comparing units deployed the active war zones against those deployed only in training right? High end combat goggles are expensive and need replaying after a few years through wear and tear. There is no need to issue troops with them in peace time.
one can argue the tactical benefits of carrying such a large melee weapon into combat, but we sure does not see other SOFs doing that
Weren't you the one champion the idea that having more equipment = having more skill? If Chinese SOF are carrying DaDao while others aren't, according to your logic, shouldn't that mean they are more skilled?
It is inconsistencies like this that point to you having made up your mind already and are just looking for things to support your view instead to looking at things with a clean slate and trying to draw a conclusion based only on what you have seen.
another lacking equipment would be the DSR or marksman rifle, which is a Russian origin SVD or perhaps a Chinese equivalent (i'm not familiar with small arms), effective range 800m which is IMveryHO is not adequate
Maybe you need to familiarize yourself with the role of the designated marksman then. A designated marksman is not a sniper, and 800m is plenty. That is the range of the new L129A1 sharpshooter rifle that the British are only recently equipping their troops with.
no scopes on the QBZs, no tactical radios (as usual with PLA SOFs pic), and other equipments such as pocket ready magazines, though the video grab is quite blurry to precisely show any or the lack of
That vid is several years old. Scopes are far more common place these days, also, when the PLAN SOF deploy for missions, they carry tactical radios, just watch some of the videos on the web. And pocket ready magazines? Really? What special skill do you need to be able to use that? It just look like you are grasping for straws here mate.
suffice to say it's not an exemplary display of a well equipped mission deployment ready SOF team, but we also should not take the pics as a representative of PLA SOFs equipment and load out standards
But the screen grabs are so blurry it's hard to see much of the details. If you yourself acknowledge that this is not representative of the usual equipment layout, how could you use this as 'evidence' that PLA SOF are "woefully equipped"?
