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Kalum Pupeter

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You can just post the original article and your own thoughts about relevant part of the article, what is the point of including x posts from random people online?

This is a serious thread, so please keep it to relevant material.
I have added my thoughts.
 

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I completely agree with Teortaxes and Zephyr. They clearly have above-average knowledge on this topic. The next paradigm could involve AI agents used either for deterrence or for crippling a country’s civilian and military infrastructure to the core.

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Man, these tweets sure read like they've been written by a chronically online person with no understanding on how the CPC actually works.
Why are they even supposing that the CPC isn't using AI tools internally since they actually revealed the use of AI systems in anti-graft work.

Like seriously there's nothing suggesting that MSS is not using AI tools internally, but with everything that's actually important to NATIONAL SECURITY, the CPC isn't revealing a thing since it could be used by adversaries.
 

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I have added my thoughts.
Alright that’s fine but these people are nobodies and same with rest of us here, so unless this is someone with actual insight working in these companies, it’s really not worth posting their opinions or speculations.

there is enough going on to not waste time on stuff like this.
 

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I completely agree with Teortaxes and Zephyr. They clearly have above-average knowledge on this topic. The next paradigm could involve AI agents used either for deterrence or for crippling a country’s civilian and military infrastructure to the core.

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These images hurts my eyes.

If the goal is hallucinating your way to victory, maybe. The problem with these models are that are not really intelligent or at least don't have the intelligence the humans have or any animal in the planet and probably will never will. They are really bad adapting to new situations they are not in their training dataset because they are a numerical matrix.
In cyberware you need adapt quickly to unexpected situations. This model probabilistic generation could probably cripple a military ability to conduct cyberattacks or even backfire because human don't react as fast as these models generate content and these models will be doing probabilistic whatever they want. An agent could delete entire Pentagon databases before anyone could even react or give instructions that may seem ok but that could lead to deaths and then give you an apology.

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These models are more like productivity improvement TOOLs than sentient beings.
 

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These images hurts my eyes.

If the goal is hallucinating your way to victory, maybe. The problem with these models are that are not really intelligent or at least don't have the intelligence the humans have or any animal in the planet and probably will never will. They are really bad adapting to new situations they are not in their training dataset because they are a numerical matrix.
In cyberware you need adapt quickly to unexpected situations. This model probabilistic generation could probably cripple a military ability to conduct cyberattacks or even backfire because human don't react as fast as these models generate content and these models will be doing probabilistic whatever they want. An agent could delete entire Pentagon databases before anyone could even react or give instructions that may seem ok but that could lead to deaths and then give you an apology.

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These models are more like productivity improvement TOOLs than sentient beings.
okay, let's move on from this topic please.
 

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Trump Orders Government to Stop Using Anthropic After Pentagon Standoff​

The company had clashed with the military over how officials wanted to use its cutting-edge A.I. model. The order could vastly complicate intelligence analysis and defense work.

President Trump on Friday ordered all federal agencies to stop using artificial intelligence technology made by Anthropic, a directive that could vastly complicate government intelligence analysis and defense work.
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Mr. Trump used harsh words for Anthropic, describing it as a “radical Left AI company run by people who have no idea what the real World is all about.”
Shortly after Mr. Trump’s announcement, and 13 minutes after a Pentagon deadline, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth
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the company a “supply-chain risk to national security.” The label means that no contractor or supplier that works with the military can do business with Anthropic.
The move is all but unheard-of, legal experts said. It strips an American company of its government work by using a process previously deployed only with foreign companies the United States considered security risks.

Anthropic is expected to challenge the designation in court, according to people briefed on the deliberations. If it is upheld, it could be a serious problem for the company, giving firms pause before they incorporate its product. Any use of Claude could potentially affect their own government contracts.
For days, Anthropic and the Pentagon had been locked in an escalating battle over how cutting-edge artificial intelligence technology would be used, and how it could aid military operations. The Pentagon demanded that Anthropic provide unfettered access to its A.I. system without the safeguards the company wanted.
Negotiations continued throughout Friday, but one person briefed on the talks said that there appeared to be little urgency from the Silicon Valley firm to reach a deal.
Mr. Trump’s statement, which came as the Pentagon and Anthropic were continuing to discuss a compromise, took Anthropic officials by surprise, according to people briefed on the discussions.
Calling the company “Leftwing nut jobs,” Mr. Trump said it had made a mistake trying to strong-arm the Pentagon.

Still, Mr. Trump announced a “Six Month phase out” for the Pentagon and some other agencies, which could allow for more extended negotiations between Anthropic and the Defense Department.
While some current and former American officials had expressed hope of some sort of deal before the Pentagon’s
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on Friday, Mr. Trump’s comments undoubtedly complicated matters.
Democratic lawmakers quickly rallied to Anthropic’s side. Senator Mark Warner of Virginia, the top Democrat on the Intelligence Committee, said Mr. Trump and Mr. Hegseth were trying to intimidate a leading American company, actions that posed a risk to defense readiness.
“The president’s directive to halt the use of a leading American A.I. company across the federal government, combined with inflammatory rhetoric attacking that company, raises serious concerns about whether national security decisions are being driven by careful analysis or political considerations,” Mr. Warner said.
Experts lamented the turn of events.
“This is a dark day in the history of American business,” said Dean Ball, a former White House A.I. adviser for the Trump administration who now works as a senior fellow at the Foundation for American Innovation.

“The message sent by the supply chain risk designation to businesses, investors and global partners could not be worse,” he added. “And on top of that, this is the most aggressive government regulation of A.I. ever taken anywhere in the world.”
Defense Department officials were already criticizing Anthropic’s leader after the
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their latest offer to settle the dispute. On Thursday evening, Emil Michael, a top Pentagon official who oversees artificial intelligence, attacked Dario Amodei, the chief executive of Anthropic, who earlier in the day had released a statement about why the company would not agree to the Defense Department’s latest terms.
“It’s a shame that @DarioAmodei is a liar and has a God-complex,”
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. “He wants nothing more than to try to personally control the US Military and is ok putting our nation’s safety at risk. The @DeptofWar will ALWAYS adhere to the law but not bend to whims of any one for-profit tech company.”
On the surface, the battle between the Pentagon and Anthropic is a contract dispute over technical details of how the artificial intelligence model works, and over the military’s use of it. But as Mr. Trump’s comments showed, it has also ballooned into a political fight.
The Pentagon wants all its contractors to adhere to a single standard — that the military can use what it buys however it wants, as long as it complies with the law. But Pentagon officials have also been happy to beat up on tech companies, particularly ones the
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For Anthropic, a firm that prioritizes both national security and technological safety, the political stakes are high.
Employees at the company have cheered their chief executive’s firm stance. And in a rare moment of unity across Silicon Valley A.I. companies, employees at two of Anthropic’s competitors, OpenAI and Google, signed letters backing Anthropic’s position.
One letter
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was signed by nearly 50 employees at OpenAI and 175 at Google. It criticized the Pentagon’s negotiating tactics and called on its leaders to “put aside their differences and stand together to continue to refuse the Department of War’s current demands.”
“They’re trying to divide each company with fear that the other will give in,” the letter said.
In their initial potential compromise, the Pentagon said on Thursday that it had no interest in using Anthropic’s model that works on classified systems for either mass surveillance or fully autonomous weaponry. But in rejecting that offer, Anthropic said the Pentagon’s assertion that it would not use the model, called Claude, for those purposes was undercut by the legal language in the contract.
“In a narrow set of cases, we believe A.I. can undermine, rather than defend, democratic values,”
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. “Some uses are also simply outside the bounds of what today’s technology can safely and reliably do.”

The Pentagon had weighed forcing Anthropic to let it use Claude through the Defense Production Act, a move that would force Anthropic to work with the government by labeling it as critical to national security. But Mr. Trump’s social media post made clear that the government intended to move on from Claude. So the Pentagon chose to announce that the company was a supply chain risk.
While Mr. Hegseth also announced a six-month transition period, he ended his post by saying that his decision was final.
But experts said that the Pentagon’s use of a tool meant for foreign companies on American firms posed its own set of complications.
“The problem with using the designation of a supply chain risk is that it waters down that tool,” said Jessica Tillipman, a government contracts and A.I. expert at George Washington University’s law school. The Defense Department would be “transforming what is designed to be a national security tool into a point of leverage for a business use,” she added.
While many of the uses of artificial intelligence to assist military operations on the ground are still in a developmental stage, the models are actively used for intelligence analysis. Forcing Claude off government computers would hurt analysts at the National Security Agency sifting through overseas communications intercepts. It could also hamper C.I.A. analysts searching for patterns in intelligence reports.

Former officials have said C.I.A. officials are anxious to find a way to continue to use Claude, which has sped up their work and deepened their analysis. But before Mr. Trump’s comments, officials had warned that any order by the president could force the agency to find other solutions.
The Pentagon is ready to move forward with Grok, produced by Elon Musk’s xAI, on its classified system. But Grok is considered by current and former government officials to be an inferior product. And switching A.I. software would take time and almost certainly cause disruption.
 

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There are many rumours saying Deepseek V4 is imminent. Here's another one.

DeepSeek is set to release its latest large language model next week, more than a year since its last major release in a fresh test of China’s ambitions to challenge US rivals in AI. The Hangzhou-based lab plans to unveil V4, a “multimodal” model with picture, video and text-generating functions, according to two people familiar with the matter. They said
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had worked with Chinese AI chipmakers Huawei and Cambricon to optimise V4 for their latest products, according to two people with knowledge of those arrangements.

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claude ai just easily breaching Dji Romo and had access to all dji Romo
Chinese companies especially tech and software related like dji needs to enhance and improve their security and with the news that usa is using Ai to target china this is very serious the fire wall and all infrastructure needs to be upgraded to defend and counter attack
 
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