Artificial Intelligence thread

[Michael90]

The goal of censorship is to prevent public criticism of the party and its leadership and sometimes its policies. As long as CCP is in power, there is no way they are going to allow it. That leads to Gorbachev and collapse.

The only way this is changing is with a color revolution that gets rid of CCP.

If you think the soviet union collapse because they relaxed censorship then i don't even know what else to say. Lol

You should go ahead and visit pincong, Reddit subs like China_irl, hanren and runtojapan first. China is full of western worshipping traitors. They are so self-hating that they openly call for China's own destruction just to "civilize" the barbarian Chinese. I can tell you if CCP loosens censorship even a little bit, there will be so much anti-China anti-CCP fake news from these traitors that there will be a color revolution in a few months.

China is most certainly not ready to loosen censorship anytime soon.

Lol the way you frame it feels like CCP is so insecured about her rule and scared/paranoid of Chinese people criticism so much that they know they will collapse immediately if they allowed even abit of their people to express themselves freely. Lol. Dude i dont believe the government is so fragile that only by totally restricting their people can they rule freely(i dont believe the party is so fragile, i think its more about fear of the unknown than reality), i dont think CCP is not more fragile than Putin's or Cubans government who still allows some form of freedom of expression from her people, of course they still put some limitations on some things. So i dont believe the party is that unstable. If that was really the case, then its only a matter of time for the party to collapse.

 

[萌萌与猫猫]

You should go ahead and visit pincong, Reddit subs like China_irl, hanren and runtojapan first. China is full of western worshipping traitors. They are so self-hating that they openly call for China's own destruction just to "civilize" the barbarian Chinese. I can tell you if CCP loosens censorship even a little bit, there will be so much anti-China anti-CCP fake news from these traitors that there will be a color revolution in a few months.

China is most certainly not ready to loosen censorship anytime soon.

In fact, I have absolutely no concern whatsoever about these people. They are typically a bunch of fools who are utterly lacking in knowledge and culture, and are despised by ninety-nine percent of the Chinese population. They wouldn't even dare express their extreme views in front of anyone they know in real life. How could you possibly worry that anyone would support a bunch of idiots who wish for the collective suicide of the Chinese people?

 

[tamsen_ikard]

If you think the soviet union collapse because they relaxed censorship then i don't even know what else to say. Lol

Lol the way you frame it feels like CCP is so insecured about her rule and scared/paranoid of Chinese people criticism so much that they know they will collapse immediately if they allowed even abit of their people to express themselves freely. Lol. Dude i dont believe the government is so fragile that only by totally restricting their people can they rule freely(i dont believe the party is so fragile, i think its more about fear of the unknown than reality), i dont think CCP is not more fragile than Putin's or Cubans government who still allows some form of freedom of expression from her people, of course they still put some limitations on some things. So i dont believe the party is that unstable. If that was really the case, then its only a matter of time for the party to collapse.

The party is extremely fragile because of western worship in China and super-high scrutiny of the Chinese liberals and the western media. China is so highly scruitinized that a single lone wolf protest gets blown up by both western media and these so called liberals.

During Covid China performed better than any country and yet was blamed to oblivion and accused of first locking people down, and then genocide when they opened up. China despite having 5% growth rate is constantly accused of having an economic crisis. The Chinese people themselves are gloomy because of the economy even though it is growing.

Outside China, no country faces as much extreme scrutiny and blame as China where every single minor thing is blown up to epic proportions. They are looking for any kind of "mistake", bad case to write 100s of articles and videos against China. These are then used by local traitors as evidence of China's problems and again blame the CCP.

CCP faces a literal pressure cooker of public scrutiny that not a pin prick can go wrong. That's why it has to maintain such high censorship.

I actually think China would have faced a color revolution if Trump didn't start the trade and tech war. This shifted a lot of Chinese public anger against the government towards the west.

 

[gelgoog]

Soviet Russia collapsed because it lost the lead in science and technology especially in information technologies . Relating Soviet Russia's collapse to cencorship is just West wrong interpretation. China today leads technology in many ways also it has still relatively cheap labor. IMO, this would end up West collapse since West began to lack behind China .

The Soviets were always behind in IT vs the US. They had a late start. While the US and UK started their efforts during WW2 the Soviets had more pressing things to do with an invasion on their soil. The first Soviet computer Strela was made in the early 1950s.
But the Soviets were behind by like 5 years much like China is today. This was less of a big deal than some people think.

The Soviets had S/360 and PDP-11 compatible clones. The Elektronika BK for example was a PDP-11 compatible microcomputer.

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And the higher end DVK series.

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These compared fairly well against Western micros back then in 1983. But then there were huge gains in performance in the US a couple years after as workstations came out. But these were higher end systems few had even in the US.

Just before the Soviets collapsed they developed a three chip VAX compatible processor.

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This was like 5 years after the MicroVAX came out in 1984.

 

[Randomuser]

Seems like we are getting derailed here. By a crappy western take too. Funny how some rejects on reddit (USAID backed btw) mean so much but we ignore all the commentators on Chinese social media such as Weibo who are the opposite. Their views on India and Taiwan is also against the current handling of the government but for "different" reasons. Even more ironic is still harping about China censorship on 2025 when the whole world is going towards censorship. I guess the whole world is becoming a pressure cooker that will blow up their governments then using that logic. Even more so for the west because they started high and are seeing themselves lose out.

Honestly its very disappointing such stuff is still posted on this forum given all the recent developments in the world. In a technical thread too. Will leave it up to the mods to clean up.

 

[Wrought]

Soviet Russia collapsed because it lost the lead in science and technology especially in information technologies . Relating Soviet Russia's collapse to cencorship is just West wrong interpretation. China today leads technology in many ways also it has still relatively cheap labor. IMO, this would end up West collapse since West began to lack behind China .

What a ridiculous misunderstanding of the Soviet Union and indeed every country. North Korea is decades behind in science and technology, but they have not collapsed. External competition is a matter of technology, but internal collapse is a matter of choice.

苏共拥有20万党员时夺取了政权，拥有200万党员时打败了希特勒，而拥有近2000万党员时却失去了政权。我说过，在那场动荡中，竟无一人是男儿，没什么人出来抗争。什么原因？就是理想信念已经荡然无存了。

The CPSU seized power with 200,000 members, defeated Hitler with 2 million, and lost power with nearly 20 million. I've said that during that turmoil, not a single man stood up to fight. The reason? Because ideals and convictions had vanished.

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Returning from that dumb tangent, here's a paper published in Nature Medicine about using AI to help diagnose cardiac conditions in CT scans.

The accurate and timely diagnosis of acute aortic syndrome (AAS) in patients presenting with acute chest pain remains a clinical challenge. Aortic computed tomography (CT) angiography is the imaging protocol of choice in patients with suspected AAS. However, due to economic and workflow constraints in China, the majority of suspected patients initially undergo noncontrast CT as the initial imaging testing, and CT angiography is reserved for those at higher risk. Although noncontrast CT can reveal specific signs indicative of AAS, its diagnostic efficacy when used alone has not been well characterized. Here we present an artificial intelligence-based warning system, iAorta, using noncontrast CT for AAS identification in China, which demonstrates remarkably high accuracy and provides clinicians with interpretable warnings. iAorta was evaluated through a comprehensive step-wise study.

In the multicenter retrospective study (n = 20,750), iAorta achieved a mean area under the receiver operating curve of 0.958 (95% confidence interval 0.950–0.967). In the large-scale real-world study (n = 137,525), iAorta demonstrated consistently high performance across various noncontrast CT protocols, achieving a sensitivity of 0.913–0.942 and a specificity of 0.991–0.993. In the prospective comparative study (n = 13,846), iAorta demonstrated the capability to significantly shorten the time to correct diagnostic pathway for patients with initial false suspicion from an average of 219.7 (115–325) min to 61.6 (43–89) min. Furthermore, for the prospective pilot deployment that we conducted, iAorta correctly identified 21 out of 22 patients with AAS among 15,584 consecutive patients presenting with acute chest pain and under noncontrast CT protocol in the emergency department. For these 21 AAS-positive patients, the average time to diagnosis was 102.1 (75–133) min. Finally, iAorta may help prevent delayed or missed diagnoses of AAS in settings where noncontrast CT remains the only feasible initial imaging modality—such as in resource-limited regions or in patients who cannot receive, or did not receive, intravenous contrast.

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[akay]

The Soviets were always behind in IT vs the US. They had a late start. While the US and UK started their efforts during WW2 the Soviets had more pressing things to do with an invasion on their soil. The first Soviet computer Strela was made in the early 1950s.
But the Soviets were behind by like 5 years much like China is today. This was less of a big deal than some people think.

The Soviets had S/360 and PDP-11 compatible clones. The Elektronika BK for example was a PDP-11 compatible microcomputer.

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And the higher end DVK series.

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These compared fairly well against Western micros back then in 1983. But then there were huge gains in performance in the US a couple years after as workstations came out. But these were higher end systems few had even in the US.

Just before the Soviets collapsed they developed a three chip VAX compatible processor.

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This was like 5 years after the MicroVAX came out in 1984.

I think soviets were much more behind than US in IT sector . Today Russia has both good defense and aviation industries inherited from Soviets . If soviets had something that is only 5 years behind from US in IT sector, it should definitely would be continued but neither at hardware nor in software(especially OS) side, Russia could not create good companies.

 

[akay]

What a ridiculous misunderstanding of the Soviet Union and indeed every country. North Korea is decades behind in science and technology, but they have not collapsed. External competition is a matter of technology, but internal collapse is a matter of choice.

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Returning from that dumb tangent, here's a paper published in Nature Medicine about using AI to help diagnose cardiac conditions in CT scans.

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I recommend you to read some history before claiming someone dumb. If you lack behind in technology, external factors began to pressure on you in every aspect, economically,politically and militarily. Since Eastern Block has too many countries in it(even Soviet Union was composed of many countries), it could not maintain its integrity while falling behind in technology. If western world lack behind in technology, external factors would certainly began to put pressure on Western world and this might end up with western hegemony collapse .

 

[Wrought]

I recommend you to read some history before claiming someone dumb. If you lack behind in technology, external factors began to pressure on you in every aspect, economically,politically and militarily. Since Eastern Block has too many countries in it(even Soviet Union was composed of many countries), it could not maintain its integrity while falling behind in technology. If western world lack behind in technology, external factors would certainly began to put pressure on Western world and this might end up with western hegemony collapse .

Revolutionary Russia, 1891-1991: A History, by Orlando Figes is my go-to primer. The Collapse of the Soviet Military, by William Odom has a tighter focus on the era of Soviet dissolution. A Full-Value Ruble, by Kristy Ironside is good for post-WWII monetary policy. But you were saying something about reading history?

Anyways, this is very far from the topic of AI. Come back once you've done your homework.

 

[dingyibvs]

If you think the soviet union collapse because they relaxed censorship then i don't even know what else to say. Lol

Lol the way you frame it feels like CCP is so insecured about her rule and scared/paranoid of Chinese people criticism so much that they know they will collapse immediately if they allowed even abit of their people to express themselves freely. Lol. Dude i dont believe the government is so fragile that only by totally restricting their people can they rule freely(i dont believe the party is so fragile, i think its more about fear of the unknown than reality), i dont think CCP is not more fragile than Putin's or Cubans government who still allows some form of freedom of expression from her people, of course they still put some limitations on some things. So i dont believe the party is that unstable. If that was really the case, then its only a matter of time for the party to collapse.

It doesn't matter if the CCP collapses, getting rid of censorship will mean that China will be controlled by who control the media, whether it's through the CCP or another entity/entities.