DeepSeek says that closed source models are accelerating at a faster rate than open sourced models. Thus, the gap instead of narrowing, is actually widening
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The Intelligence Index score on DeepSeek V3.2 Speciale is limited due to its tool call support, which is why it is currently lower than the regular thinking variant. Dev expect the final score with tool call to be ~68 but we shall see.
Anthropic reportedly preparing for one of the largest IPOs ever in race with OpenAI: FT
- Anthropic is weighing a massive IPO while also exploring fresh private funding over the $300 billion mark, per the FT.
- The AI firm has reportedly engaged Wilson Sonsini and major banks as the startup races OpenAI for a public listing.
- The potential listings would test investor appetite for high-burn AI firms amid bubble fears and surging valuations.
Can't believe these guys are serious about this.
no, DeepSeek V3.2 is actually quite a bit better than MoonshotAI. The regular thinking version uses much fewer token than Kimi and is already at the same level in intelligence. The special version is SOTA. On the same level as Gemini 3. They just need to do some work still to get the tool calling worked out. There will be another major release before Chinese New Year, I'm sure of that.
But here you are comparing apples to oranges. These small AI labs in China are quite AGI pilled also, whereas Qwen team and Doubao team are more about putting AI in products. That's why these big tech have to develop a full suite of AI models and products.
Qwen basically has full control of small model fine tuning world at this point.
just posted this today. ByteDance's Doubao phone just came out and the AI-native feature here is quite impressive.
Alibaba is also out with their Quark AI glass and browser.
you go to IPO at this point only if you cannot raise enough private funding. These guys are just all doing media tour at this point to raise the value of their asset.
But make no mistake, Gemini release was crushing for these two.
Chinese firms are famous for humble brag. Where they understate the performance of their own product. At this point, it's quite clear the Chinese open source models are far closer to the American closed source models than at this point last year. V3.2 Speciale is SOTA and Kimi K2 was SOTA at its release. You couldn't have said anything like that a year ago.