Artificial Intelligence thread

Eventine

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Compared to Anthropic's Claude Sonnet 3.5, that's a ~7x price advantage, but it should be remembered that Sonnet 3.5 is not a reasoning model, and as such it produces fewer output tokens (since the thought chain is not included). Sonnet is mostly used by coders (and is probably the best model for coding) via intermediate services like Cursor, and so there is still an argument to be made that Sonnet is competitive with R1, which probably explains why it remains at the top of the Open Router list.

A Deep Seek v4 that beats Sonnet 3.5 in coding (but is still cheaper to run) should be the next goal. Anthropic is the least open of all the Big AI companies in the US and also actively campaigns for chips embargoes on China. Crushing them will not only be commercially and technologically useful, but would also be a huge publicity win.
 
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