Article on some new ROC weapons

darth sidious

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The_Zergling said:
Yes, I know the basic rules of physics. I agree that height (potential energy) and speed (kinetic energy) put together will greatly increase the range of a bomb. Speed of the aircraft + Gravity.

But consider the stated range again.

Seriously. 70 KM?

The friggin' AMRAAM has a range of 75 KM! (Give or take a few) And it's not a heavy JDAM! And it's got a big rocket sticking out of its butt that sends it streaking towards its unfortunate target like there's no tomorrow! And it can only go 75KM! (Well actually, probably more before it hits the ground)

I really find it hard to believe a bomb (Which packs a lot more heavy explosives than a AMRAAM) would be able to glide 70KM without any additional propulsion.

Technically yeah, it's possible. Have a flight of F-16s take off from Hualien AFB on the Eastern side of Taiwan, have them fly east towards the Pacific, at the same time ascending until they reach oh say ~70000 feet. Then, have them turn around 180 degrees, lighting the afterburners until they're at max operational speed (Let's say around Mach 2, 2600 Kilometers per hour) And when they're a third of the way over the Taiwan Strait, release the bombs, and slow down before they cross the centerline and get shot down by Chinese SAMs. In the meantime, who the hell is pointing the laser at the target so the bombs will have "pin-point" accuracy?

I'm sorry if I sound very sarcastic. If my grasp of physics is way off then by all means educate me.

70KM is alomst certinaly false 25KM is the range i am talking about
the version that travels further then that has a rocket booster
 

Nethappy

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The JSOW is designed glided, so it long wing will create lift for it. So If you can drop at different height and speed it can create different flight profile. But this is effect by weather condition.

If we can lift a 2 person (full grown man (70-90g) x2 =140-180kg) glider of the ground with a with a 4WD (speed 100-120km/h), and have it glide around for hours. A 483 kg JSOW with a 450kg payload (1000 Pounds) drop from a plane at 70000ft, at a speed of let said mach 1, considering wind is blowing at the direction to creat lift. This is very possible.

Any of u realize the NASA Shuttle (Empty Weight - 68,586kg) flies like a conventional glider during the descent and landing.
 

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Aerodriver

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Surprised me no one has talked about bomb tossing which is what air forces do to increase the range of none glider bombs, and it makes any physics very complicated, so no point trying to prove it here, even if i could remember how. Anyway your looking at ranges of old laser guided bombs of about 30Km's new bombs is still classified. Any none guided bombs would be too inaccurate at these ranges even with fancy computers on board.
lets talk about realistic attack profiles, not just whether its possible to throw a bomb 70Km's, so the high attacks with max speed in my view should not be included as they are not feasible.


Edit:Corrected my shocking spelling
 
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jchu1988

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So taiwan has finally learned from their mistakes. They have realised that the US wont sell them new or high tech weaponary. This is show in the case of the 150 F16a/b that was overpriced and that decommisioned cruiser. It would probably be cheaper for taiwant to make their own weapons anyway.
 

sumdud

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How big will the gilding bomb be? How heavy?
The Spice of Israel is 1000-2000 lbs, and it's claimed to the able to glide for 60km. That bomb utilizes 2 shorter wings instead of 1 long conventional wing. Maybe that will improve gliding performance?
I doubt you will need a big warhead to destroy a radar.
If the bomb is going to stay out of range of SA-10 radars, it has to have a good range.

As for the TC-2A, is that going to work? It sounds like Taiwan's counterpart to the Sidearm (Aim-9->ARM) If it's a variant of TC-2A, where will it get the range of the power to destroy a radar?
 
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