article about PLAN C-3 .

challenge said:

If I said J-10 is same class as F-22,2/3 of blogger in this forum will more likely said yes.

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I doubt it. It is kinda a waste to use F-22 against 3rd generation fighters

challenge said:

If I said J-10 is same class as F-22,2/3 of blogger in this forum will more likely said yes.

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:roll: That is not true. Any person who has any experience at all about the PLA and US military would know one is better than the other...
Besides you can tell they're in different classes just by the way they look


But it is of my opinion as well that some of your posts have been a bit confrontational and using sources to diss some of China's developments.
But it's a free world :nono:

challenge said:

if this is your opinion, do you have information regarding PLAN/PLAAF command and control ?or do I see self denial..
If I said J-10 is same class as F-22,2/3 of blogger in this forum will more likely said yes.

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Really, I don't recall anyone here giving any hint that they think that's so. On the other hand, when both of them are out of missiles and are down to cannons only, the J-10 will have a fair chance.

challenge said:

if this is your opinion, do you have information regarding PLAN/PLAAF command and control ?or do I see self denial..
If I said J-10 is same class as F-22,2/3 of blogger in this forum will more likely said yes.

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You post an article. Somebody point out the mistakes in same. Typically, if you actually have anything to say, you go ahead and rebutt his point. Instead you make insinuations as to motive, which is attacking the user. When called upon this point, you then attack a nebulous 2/3 of the posters as idiots. I don't believe that is good form at all.

That is why people say you are making trouble. You post things to get reaction, apparently, not to get useful discussion.

I suggest everybody calm down and not contribute to deterioration, and I suggest to Challenge that next time you post an article, you firstly post the citation (everybody knows you didn't write it, but on some forum, not posting a citation is implicitly saying that you wrote it), in fact, try to do that when you make any claims at all, rather than just some Chinese magazine, and secondly, that you look at reply to your articles with a cool head, and try to address criticism of the article in a logical manner rather than leap straight to personal attack.

This is my last word on this matter.

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Troika said:

You post an article. Somebody point out the mistakes in same. Typically, if you actually have anything to say, you go ahead and rebutt his point. Instead you make insinuations as to motive, which is attacking the user. When called upon this point, you then attack a nebulous 2/3 of the posters as idiots. I don't believe that is good form at all.

That is why people say you are making trouble. You post things to get reaction, apparently, not to get useful discussion.

I suggest everybody calm down and not contribute to deterioration, and I suggest to Challenge that next time you post an article, you firstly post the citation (everybody knows you didn't write it, but on some forum, not posting a citation is implicitly saying that you wrote it), in fact, try to do that when you make any claims at all, rather than just some Chinese magazine, and secondly, that you look at reply to your articles with a cool head, and try to address criticism of the article in a logical manner rather than leap straight to personal attack.

This is my last word on this matter.

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tell that friedricenspice and lion.not me.

Gents , knock off the flamming and have an intelligent discussion.

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