Animals..friend or food? Perhaps both!

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The problem with animal rights activists is they're a bunch of hypocrites. A pig has the same intelligence as a dog yet one is okay to eat but the other is not. Yes animal rights activists are against all animals being eaten for food but because they know if they called for all animals not to be eaten, they would not get support from the general public. So what do they do instead is exploit people's prejudices and target cultural eating practices to get people on board which makes them racists. Not surprising when they say it's okay to kill and eat an animal because it comes down to it's just ugly. It's like Steve Irwin's father vilifying the Chinese to turn the public against the the sale of kangaroo meat to China. The Chinese don't eat kangaroo meat yet the already long existing kangaroo meat industry of Australia looking to make more money was trying to get the Chinese to have a taste of kangaroo. And Steve Irwin's father chose to blame the Chinese even though Austrailians already have a taste for it. Some Asian countries are ridiculed for eating rats. Yet ironically there are parts of the US that eat squirrels which is a rodent just like a rat. Here's the hypocritical twist. Now all of the sudden it's wrong to eat an ugly looking rat yet there's no problem eating a cute squirrel. If all animals were all equal to humans like "animals lovers" believe, then there would be no criminal distinction. Yet they do have it on what animals are not suitable for eating and who gets to eat it.

And let's not believe horrid conditions for animals for food is something foreign. Animals rights activists have those videos too but they're not used for the same reason of fear of losing general public support. There's a major slaughterhouse in Washington state that carves up cows for packaging meat while they're still alive. Not any different from what has been accused of China.

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That's the problem when you have ultra liberal groups with no Ph.D's on any branches of science dictates the world from their feelings and immature POV. The leaders are always some rich kid who couldn't finish their second year of community college therefore drop outs and decided to take up something to do to make their lives more meaningful.

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Equation said:

How would you like it if said the west got a long way to go? That they and their PETA buddies needs to stop making love to animals and false promotion of "animal rights". Hey I rather eat the animals instead of mating with it.

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Perhaps, but animals don't write poetry or used their digits on their hands to create various tools and make fire like we do. Animals don't use and flush toilets like we do. They also don't convey creativity like many geniuses from Confucius to Da Vinci in thoughts for other humans to be inspired to make better machines and uplifting our spirits.

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hey cats use and flush toilets

i agree that animals are there for us to consume and exploit, by furry friends i mean cats and dogs, don't they have a special place in human culture more than other animals, and the whole idea was wrong by saying if we can't eat them means animals are above or the same level with us

speaking of ways to go, the West have been so rich for so long that it became retarded on things like this, like telling people to go vegan to save the world
but China has only tasted the fruits of prosperity for a while, people are still poor and animal cruelty is still rampant because people need to make living (not just cooking cats and dogs) and thus become part of the general culture,
saying no to cats and dogs is an improvement for a start

i don't have a problem with people eating live monkey, slice the skull open and spoon the brain right off it, or skinning a snake alive like opening socks and throw it at boiling oil, etc etc
because they are 'just' animals
some people love and care for their pets (e.g putting effort to keep one like grooming, feeding, walking etc), that is the difference

but phagehunter was right saying noone should tell you what to eat

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paintgun said:

hey cats use and flush toilets

i agree that animals are there for us to consume and exploit, by furry friends i mean cats and dogs, don't they have a special place in human culture more than other animals, and the whole idea was wrong by saying if we can't eat them means animals are above or the same level with us

speaking of ways to go, the West have been so rich for so long that it became retarded on things like this, like telling people to go vegan to save the world
but China has only tasted the fruits of prosperity for a while, people are still poor and animal cruelty is still rampant because people need to make living (not just cooking cats and dogs) and thus become part of the general culture,
saying no to cats and dogs is an improvement for a start

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I agreed to an extent, but the problem is WHO GETS to say which animal "have a special place in the human culture" and why should they be given this special administrative cultural power? Is it because it's modern and hip to do it? By this logic alone, that means only the cutest the animals gets to immunity from human consumption.

China's been rich and prosper for most of man kind 6,000 year history (like 90%), so China's been there done that (yes even democratic practice). There's nothing China has not seen from the west that are special and new. There's always will be rich and poor people. So if poor folks want to eat cats and dogs for protein, so be it (in ANY country). If rich and middle class folks wants to eat out of delicacy fancy, so be it, I have no object to it as long as they're not endangered. Heck IF (not that it will for a long time) Panda's aren't endanger and there are plenty of them in numbers to be sustainable, I will not hesitate to try it eating it.

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But is there much evidence to suggest that people are eating dog and cat meat because they are poor? I would have thought if anything that dog and cat meat would be more expensive than say pork, and that people are into it for the novelty/craving/special dish factor.

If poor people have to hunt down dogs to feed themselves, then that's another thing.

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Equation said:

Panda's aren't endanger and there are plenty of them in numbers to be sustainable, I will not hesitate to try it eating it.

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Really!? Hunting Panda can get you a dealth penalty in China. There are about 3000 of them left, which is about the same as the number of pupils in my primary school back in Taiwan.

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Personally I have rarely tried anything beyond beef, pork, poultry, and fish. But I'm not going to knock someone elses cultural diet. Why is it that some act as if eating beyond the typical Western diet is criminal? British scientists genetically traced all domesticated dogs to three breeds of wild canine found only in what is China today. Meaning thanks to the Chinese is why people can love their dogs. Should China claim some sort of ownership? That's as absurd as demanding the world only eat what's approved by one culture. I'm for executing people who trade in endangered animals and China has those kinds of laws on the books. Do the critics execute people for killing endangered animals for sport to which many of their cultures do? Oddly the value of animal life loses over the needs of human beings in such cases. Another odd twisted logic is you can kill an endangered animal for sport but they think it's worse for you to eat it. They mock Chinese medicine for certain aphrodisiac beliefs yet what's killing an endangered dangerous animal for sport all about?

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I agree that people had the right to choose what they eat, I also think discriminating people for their eating habit shows intolerance.

But there are people who liked to personally see the animal they eat killed in front of them. Personally I find that a bit morbid.

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paintgun said:

i will eat anything considered delicacies, ate bat, snake, turtles and sea turtles
but cats and dogs, please no

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I think Westerners are hypocrites, people don't eat cats and dogs because they're so called "friends". Does that mean they also shouldn't eat their working cows and horses? But in reality, cows and horses are consumed to this day, in fact horse meat is still a delicacy in Europe.

What I found most interesting is that Orientals get mocked for eating dogs, in fact, dogs were consumed in Europe up until the beginning of 20th century. There were butcher shops that only sell dog meats in Paris until the 20s and 30s.

And for cats, who de hell in the world would eat cats???? I have never heard of Chinese eating cats.

Here's some pics of Europeans consuming dog meat.

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Equation said:

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Anybody know what kind of weapon the guy on the left of the pics is yielding?

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So is dog meat legal or not in all parts of China (just curious)?

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dog meat is legal. As an overseas Chinese born in China, I remember when I was younger, I have seen a commercial brochure advertising a franchised modern dog farms. They raise dogs the same way chickens and cattle are raised in America.

Speaking of which, a memory just rushed back into my mind. I remember before coming to Canada, I was about 8 or 9 years old, once I was reading a children's magazine. It was composed of articles all written by kids of that age group from around China. There was one story that got my attention without leaving my impression, but now thinking about it, it really struck me. It was about a boy that lived in rural China. His family had few chicken and this boy was the one responsible for feeding them. Over time he grew very attached to those chickens. One day he came home and saw a cooked whole rooster on the dining table. He was emotionally struck and later wrote this whole essay on how his heart was broken and how he cried a river.

Now thinking about it, it's kind of funny. Technically, you can grow attached to any creatures and could be against eating it. No offense to vegans, but I personally think they're hypocrites and are anti-human-nature. They're living against their instincts. Those people that are against eat certain animals are also hypocrites and are semi-abnormal (against human nature).

If you can eat a whole chicken or turkey or cow or pig, then why not eat a whole dog. Technically, if you live on the farm, you can easily grow very attached to those animals too. If Gordon Ramsay's kids can raise turkeys and pigs and eat it the next day, then why can't we do it.

Of course it is not right to snatch a random dog off the street, simply for hygienic reasons (unlawful merchants do it because it requires no investments, simply easy money, more you catch the more you make). But if it is raised from a standardized modern dog farms (surprisingly there are lots of those in China and especially in South Korea), then what's the harm? What's the difference between that dog and a cow? I'm sure it is definitely cleaner than a chicken raised from America, you'll understand if you ever watched "Food Inc". Plus, you never met the dog or grew attached to it.

I just find it really funny how people can deny their own past and bashing others for something normal.

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CottageLV said:

Speaking of which, a memory just rushed back into my mind. I remember before coming to Canada, I was about 8 or 9 years old, once I was reading a children's magazine. It was composed of articles all written by kids of that age group from around China. There was one story that got my attention without leaving my impression, but now thinking about it, it really struck me. It was about a boy that lived in rural China. His family had few chicken and this boy was the one responsible for feeding them. Over time he grew very attached to those chickens. One day he came home and saw a cooked whole rooster on the dining table. He was emotionally struck and later wrote this whole essay on how his heart was broken and how he cried a river.

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You raise a good point, you can get attached to anything. Refusing to eat meat should be a personal choice, not one that is forced on other people. Likewise, deciding which animals are acceptable to eat and which are not should also be a personal choice.