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Wrought

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So does that mean what Trump is doing is correct then? Will that re industrialize the US?

Lol why would you think that? Such policies—even implemented with competence, which he very much is not—are necessary but not sufficient. Trump is actively deindustrializing the US.

Manufacturing employment has been falling since April, and job growth is slower than it was between January 2024 and August 2024. The timing of the manufacturing declines corresponds with the Trump administration’s disastrous tariff policies, which are projected to cost American households
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annually. Since President Donald Trump’s tariff announcement in April 2025, overall manufacturing employment has declined by 42,000, while job openings and hires have fallen by
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, respectively. Despite Trump’s
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that his policies will reignite the manufacturing industry in the United States, his policies have achieved the opposite.

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SlothmanAllen

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I've been listening to some accounts of German High Command inability to understand American industrial power during World War II. One of the accounts relates to their inability to accept the production output of Ford's Willow Run bomber assembly line.

The Willow Run factory could assemble one B-24 Liberator bomber every 63 minutes at peak. It had 40,000 employees, a school capable training 8,000 recruits a month, a mile long assembly line and had been built in a short time frame.

Nazi leadership like Hitler believed American's could only build cheap goods like razors or refrigerators, and not something as complex as an aircraft. They also dismissed the use of women and black people on a production line and used that to dismiss the reports of Willow Run's production capacity as propaganda.

Nazi intelligence officers became increasingly convinced that the factory could build as advertised. Through webs of various informants they independently confirmed the scale of manufacturing at Willow Run, but leadership like Hermann Göring and others refused to believe such figures. Some intelligence officers remarked that given the production capacity of this one factory, it was almost a mathematical certainty the Germany would loose the war.

Anyway. I just thought this was a neat historical tidbit to share with regards to US industrial capabilities during that period.
 

Nevermore

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So does that mean what Trump is doing is correct then? Will that re industrialize the US?
The dollar exchange rate is too high, labor costs are too high, while infrastructure is in shambles and workforce quality falls short of standards. People's willingness to work in factories is also low. It can be said that unless the United States undergoes a Cultural Revolution-style radical social transformation, there may be little chance of addressing these issues.
 

uguduwa

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I've been listening to some accounts of German High Command inability to understand American industrial power during World War II. One of the accounts relates to their inability to accept the production output of Ford's Willow Run bomber assembly line.

The Willow Run factory could assemble one B-24 Liberator bomber every 63 minutes at peak. It had 40,000 employees, a school capable training 8,000 recruits a month, a mile long assembly line and had been built in a short time frame.

Nazi leadership like Hitler believed American's could only build cheap goods like razors or refrigerators, and not something as complex as an aircraft. They also dismissed the use of women and black people on a production line and used that to dismiss the reports of Willow Run's production capacity as propaganda.

Nazi intelligence officers became increasingly convinced that the factory could build as advertised. Through webs of various informants they independently confirmed the scale of manufacturing at Willow Run, but leadership like Hermann Göring and others refused to believe such figures. Some intelligence officers remarked that given the production capacity of this one factory, it was almost a mathematical certainty the Germany would loose the war.

Anyway. I just thought this was a neat historical tidbit to share with regards to US industrial capabilities during that period.
Some things have never changed in Germany. I saw some German comments regarding China‘s 6th gen fighters where people were saying that these are stolen German knowledge.
 
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