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ansy1968

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Has anyone not considered the fact that the US dollar has lost so much purchasing power in the last 4 years due to endless money printing leading to sticky inflation

Inflation isn't going away any time soon

And the US dollar will also suffer from devaluation once the FED cuts interest rates sending inflation back up.

In short, US economy is doomed
Wrong it's still in Transitory. ;)
 

chgough34

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Has anyone not considered the fact that the US dollar has lost so much purchasing power in the last 4 years due to endless money printing leading to sticky inflation

Inflation isn't going away any time soon
Inflation is solved. Rate cuts are the talk of Wall Street now.

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And the US dollar will also suffer from devaluation once the FED cuts interest rates sending inflation back up.
DXY is the strongest it’s been in decades and the U.S. doesn’t import much as a share of GDP.
 

BlackWindMnt

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Has anyone not considered the fact that the US dollar has lost so much purchasing power in the last 4 years due to endless money printing leading to sticky inflation

Inflation isn't going away any time soon

And the US dollar will also suffer from devaluation once the FED cuts interest rates sending inflation back up.

In short, US economy is doomed
Uuhm and the bitcoin halving is also coming maybe I should buy some seems like an easy profit for this year.
 

MortyandRick

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On the TCJA - most studies have found null effects from all the tax cuts, even the very conservative Tax Foundation has estimated the tax cuts will only increase long-run gdp by 1.7% -
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Just because cutting taxes will have negligible effect does not mean increasing taxes will have the same effect.

Also taking away TCJA would free up 1 trillion over 10 years, peanuts compared to the current debt levels and that's not including the loss of GDP growth and consumption growth. This would not solve the debt issue


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also see this CBO analysis on how capping social security benefits for high income people would come near to solving solvency concerns -
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and this census paper which linked survey records to tax records to show that survey-based instruments substantially underestimate both income and net worth (savings) of elderly people - the actual income is likely so much higher since 25% of US households have their own business and engage in vaguely legal tax evasion in order to *understate* their income on tax forms. So even though the census surveys substantially underestimated their income compared to tax records, their real incomes are MUCH more underestimated because of tax evasion from creative business accounting and unreported income.
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Caping social security for high earners can allow them to remain solvent but will not be able to decrease the national debt, rather it can make the debt go up slower but will still go up.

US needs to dramatically change their expenditures.

You said it would be politically difficult. Well yes but everything is politics. If it's politically difficult, it means it won't be done and the debt will continue to balloon. It is already at a point where if nothing gets done soon, it would be too late to correct.


And net worth for 65-75 y/os is actually higher after the 55-65 age bracket, which means old people, even when they aren’t working are saving substantial sums of money from unspent investment earnings, unrealized capital gains, social security, pensions, cash value life insurance, real estate income, among other sources (
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That's because those higher age bracket are working longer and more to support themselves. Over the years tahat age group has had to continue working so it's no wonder they have more assets since they are working more.
 

chgough34

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Wait but the article you posted literally indicates that inflation is NOT solved and hence why the fed is in a difficult balancing act.
It is not solved in the fact that it’s 3% instead of 2% but regardless, the fact that people are talking about rate cuts means inflation is at acceptable levels. The Fed desires 2% but that doesn’t mean 3% is an apocalypse
 
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chgough34

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Just because cutting taxes will have negligible effect does not mean increasing taxes will have the same effect.
Why wouldn’t it? You’d be restoring the status quo.
Also taking away TCJA would free up 1 trillion over 10 years, peanuts compared to the current debt levels and that's not including the loss of GDP growth and consumption growth. This would not solve the debt issue
It alone would not resolve the debt issue, I agree, which is why I included a list
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Caping social security for high earners can allow them to remain solvent but will not be able to decrease the national debt, rather it can make the debt go up slower but will still go up.
Yes. The national debt does not need to go down. The government is not a household, it lives forever and can always refinance existing principal book values. So long as interest payments are sustainable, it is fine. In fact, the optimal debt level is certainly not zero because borrowing for capital projects increases future productivity and having a large pool of risk-free assets is good for financial stability
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That's because those higher age bracket are working longer and more to support themselves. Over the years tahat age group has had to continue working so it's no wonder they have more assets since they are working more.
Except no. The data I cited was for median and mean. Since it’s still a super minority of old people that work, their savings don’t feed into those parameters. It’s simply that old people on net are so wealthy that even by doing nothing, they are able to save money
 
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