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manqiangrexue

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conducted by the Pew Research Center has found that most Asian Americans are unhappy with their salaries, with only 28% of Asian workers saying they are satisfied with how much they are paid, the lowest percentage among all racial groups.
To be fair, the expectations are different. Asians are focused on career-building, being high income high performance indivduals and that in itself is a source of constant dissatisfaction because growth stems from dissatisfaction. Other ethnicities, well, to them, if they have a job that pays enough for them to put food on the table and pay the rent every month, they're happy with their situation. One of the unexpected funny moments I saw in a movie was when an African American couple were arguing and the guy said, "What the f- else you want from me, b-ch! I already got a job, shit!" To many people, that's the gold standard; what more could you reasonably ask for? LOLOL
The study also found that only about half of U.S. workers are extremely or very satisfied with their job overall, and less than half expressed high levels of satisfaction with opportunities for skills development and promotion.
I'm actually shocked that it's this high given inflation and most of the jobs being offered paying wages that require a good amount of thriftiness to live on.
 

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They are probably anticipating new competition from China, especially with upcoming Chinese EUV machines, SMIC will be taking big market share from tsmc rapidly.

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Warren Buffett called geopolitical tensions "a consideration" in Berkshire Hathaway Inc's
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decision to sell most of its stake in Taiwanese chipmaker TSMC
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just a few months after buying it, Nikkei reported on Tuesday.

Berkshire had bought more than
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of Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co's shares between July and September 2022, but in February said it had
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by year-end.

The size of the investment suggested that Buffett, rather than one of his Berkshire portfolio managers, had bought the shares for Berkshire, and the sale was unexpected given the billionaire's preference to invest for the long-term.

In an interview with Nikkei, Buffett described TSMC as a well-managed company, but said Berkshire had better places to deploy capital.
 

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    conducted by the Pew Research Center has found that most Asian Americans are unhappy with their salaries, with only 28% of Asian workers saying they are satisfied with how much they are paid, the lowest percentage among all racial groups. The study also found that only about half of U.S. workers are extremely or very satisfied with their job overall, and less than half expressed high levels of satisfaction with opportunities for skills development and promotion. Additionally, the survey revealed that only 60% of Asian workers said they can be themselves at work all or most of the time, with 25% having experienced discrimination in the workplace due to their race or ethnicity.
what ingrates, they should be thankful for the opportunity to be coolies.
 

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Interesting article from The Economist noting the widening US-EUR/JPN gap in economic growth and technology and attributing it to work hours, educational attainment, fertility differentials, an integrated US market, and a friendly business environment.

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The lessons from America’s astonishing economic record​

If there is one thing that Americans of all political stripes can agree on, it is that the economy is broken. Donald Trump, who saw trade as a rip-off and his country in decline, came into office promising to make America great again. President Joe Biden is spending $2trn
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, hoping to build it back better.
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. Nearly four-fifths tell pollsters that their children will be worse off than they are, the most since the survey began in 1990, when only about two-fifths were as gloomy. The last time so many thought the economy was in such terrible shape, it was in the throes of the global financial crisis.


Yet the anxiety obscures a stunning success story—
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. America remains the world’s richest, most productive and most innovative big economy. By an impressive number of measures, it is leaving its peers ever further in the dust. Start with the familiar measure of economic success: GDP. In 1990 America accounted for a quarter of the world’s output, at market exchange rates. Thirty years on, that share is almost unchanged, even as China has gained economic clout. America’s dominance of the rich world is startling. Today it accounts for 58% of the G7’s GDP, compared with 40% in 1990. Adjusted for purchasing power, only those in über-rich petrostates and financial hubs enjoy a higher income per person. Average incomes have grown much faster than in western Europe or Japan. Also adjusted for purchasing power, they exceed $50,000 in Mississippi, America’s poorest state—higher than in France.

The record is as impressive for many of the ingredients of growth. America has nearly a third more workers than in 1990, compared with a tenth in western Europe and Japan. And, perhaps surprisingly, more of them have graduate and postgraduate degrees. True, Americans work more hours on average than Europeans and the Japanese. But they are significantly more productive than both.
American firms own more than a fifth of patents registered abroad, more than China and Germany put together. All of the five biggest corporate sources of research and development(R&D) are American; in the past year they have spent $200bn. Consumers everywhere have benefited from their innovations in everything from the laptop and the iPhone to artificial-intelligence chatbots. Investors who put $100 into the S&P 500 in 1990 would have more than $2,000 today, four times what they would have earned had they invested elsewhere in the rich world.

One retort to this could be that Americans trade higher incomes for less generous safety-nets. America’s spending on
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, as a share of GDP, is indeed a great deal stingier than other countries’. But those benefits have become more European and, as the economy has grown, they have grown even faster. Tax credits for workers and children have become more generous. Health insurance for the poorest has expanded, notably under President Barack Obama. In 1979 means-tested benefits amounted to a third of the poorest Americans’ pre-tax income; by 2019 these came to two-thirds. Thanks to this, incomes for America’s poorest fifth have risen in real terms by 74% since 1990, much more than in Britain.


For the world as a whole, America’s outperformance says much about how to grow. One lesson is that size matters. America has the benefit of a large consumer market over which to spread the costs of R&D, and a deep capital market from which to raise finance. Only China, and perhaps one day India, can boast of purchasing power at such scale. Other countries have sought to mimic it. But even those in Europe, which have got the closest, have struggled to become a true single market. Differences in bankruptcy laws and contractual terms, together with a variety of regulatory barriers, prevent bankers, accountants and architects from touting services across borders.
The size and the quality of the workforce matters, too. America was blessed with a younger population and a higher fertility rate than other rich countries. That may not be easily remedied elsewhere, but countries can at least take inspiration from America’s high share of immigrants, who in 2021 made up 17% of its workforce, compared with less than 3% in ageing Japan.

Another lesson is the value of dynamism. Starting a business is easy in America, as is restructuring it through bankruptcy. The flexibility of the labour market helps employment adapt to shifting patterns of demand. Already many of the workers in America who were laid off from Alphabet and other tech firms at the start of the year are applying their sought-after skills elsewhere, or setting up their own businesses. In continental Europe, by contrast, tech firms are still negotiating lay-offs, and may think twice about hiring there in future.
Americans should find the economy’s performance reassuring. If history is a guide, living standards will continue to go up for the next generation, even as the country bears the costs of decarbonising the economy. Yet, resilient as the growth record has been, there are shadows. The middle class has seen its post-tax incomes rise by less than those of both the poorest and the richest. A group of people have fallen into hard times. The share of prime-age American men who are not in work has been rising for years and is higher than in Britain, France and Germany. And life expectancy in America lags shamefully behind others in the rich world, mainly on account of too many younger people dying from drug overdoses and gun violence. Tackling such problems should be easier when the economy as a whole is growing. But America’s poisonous politics are no help.

In addition, the more that Americans think their economy is a problem in need of fixing, the more likely their politicians are to mess up the next 30 years. Although America’s openness brought prosperity for its firms and its consumers, both Mr Trump and Mr Biden have turned to protectionism and the politics of immigration have become toxic. Subsidies could boost investment in deprived areas in the short term, but risk dulling market incentives to innovate. In the long run they will also entrench wasteful and distorting
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. The rise of China and the need to fight climate change both confront America with fresh challenges. All the more reason, then, to remember what has powered its long and successful run.
 

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0.4% Core MoM is still 4.9% annualized which is way hotter than the Fed wants to see.
0.4% MoM is not an unheard of number. During "normal" years it would not be unusual to see 0.5% MoM or higher. It all depends on how it adds up at the end of the year.

I would also add, that an annualized rate of 4% or under would be a significant accomplishment for the Fed, and set the track for an even better year in 2024. Relatively high inflation for roughly 2 years before gradually coming back down to normal within another 2 years is not awful.

By comparison, even with the Volcker shock, it took significantly longer to take down inflation and at a significantly higher cost. Being unemployed is a lot more unpleasant than things being 10-15% more expensive in aggregate.
 

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Interesting article from The Economist noting the widening US-EUR/JPN gap in economic growth and technology and attributing it to work hours, educational attainment, fertility differentials, an integrated US market, and a friendly business environment.

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The lessons from America’s astonishing economic record​

If there is one thing that Americans of all political stripes can agree on, it is that the economy is broken. Donald Trump, who saw trade as a rip-off and his country in decline, came into office promising to make America great again. President Joe Biden is spending $2trn
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, hoping to build it back better.
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. Nearly four-fifths tell pollsters that their children will be worse off than they are, the most since the survey began in 1990, when only about two-fifths were as gloomy. The last time so many thought the economy was in such terrible shape, it was in the throes of the global financial crisis.


Yet the anxiety obscures a stunning success story—
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. America remains the world’s richest, most productive and most innovative big economy. By an impressive number of measures, it is leaving its peers ever further in the dust. Start with the familiar measure of economic success: GDP. In 1990 America accounted for a quarter of the world’s output, at market exchange rates. Thirty years on, that share is almost unchanged, even as China has gained economic clout. America’s dominance of the rich world is startling. Today it accounts for 58% of the G7’s GDP, compared with 40% in 1990. Adjusted for purchasing power, only those in über-rich petrostates and financial hubs enjoy a higher income per person. Average incomes have grown much faster than in western Europe or Japan. Also adjusted for purchasing power, they exceed $50,000 in Mississippi, America’s poorest state—higher than in France.

The record is as impressive for many of the ingredients of growth. America has nearly a third more workers than in 1990, compared with a tenth in western Europe and Japan. And, perhaps surprisingly, more of them have graduate and postgraduate degrees. True, Americans work more hours on average than Europeans and the Japanese. But they are significantly more productive than both.
American firms own more than a fifth of patents registered abroad, more than China and Germany put together. All of the five biggest corporate sources of research and development(R&D) are American; in the past year they have spent $200bn. Consumers everywhere have benefited from their innovations in everything from the laptop and the iPhone to artificial-intelligence chatbots. Investors who put $100 into the S&P 500 in 1990 would have more than $2,000 today, four times what they would have earned had they invested elsewhere in the rich world.

One retort to this could be that Americans trade higher incomes for less generous safety-nets. America’s spending on
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, as a share of GDP, is indeed a great deal stingier than other countries’. But those benefits have become more European and, as the economy has grown, they have grown even faster. Tax credits for workers and children have become more generous. Health insurance for the poorest has expanded, notably under President Barack Obama. In 1979 means-tested benefits amounted to a third of the poorest Americans’ pre-tax income; by 2019 these came to two-thirds. Thanks to this, incomes for America’s poorest fifth have risen in real terms by 74% since 1990, much more than in Britain.


For the world as a whole, America’s outperformance says much about how to grow. One lesson is that size matters. America has the benefit of a large consumer market over which to spread the costs of R&D, and a deep capital market from which to raise finance. Only China, and perhaps one day India, can boast of purchasing power at such scale. Other countries have sought to mimic it. But even those in Europe, which have got the closest, have struggled to become a true single market. Differences in bankruptcy laws and contractual terms, together with a variety of regulatory barriers, prevent bankers, accountants and architects from touting services across borders.
The size and the quality of the workforce matters, too. America was blessed with a younger population and a higher fertility rate than other rich countries. That may not be easily remedied elsewhere, but countries can at least take inspiration from America’s high share of immigrants, who in 2021 made up 17% of its workforce, compared with less than 3% in ageing Japan.

Another lesson is the value of dynamism. Starting a business is easy in America, as is restructuring it through bankruptcy. The flexibility of the labour market helps employment adapt to shifting patterns of demand. Already many of the workers in America who were laid off from Alphabet and other tech firms at the start of the year are applying their sought-after skills elsewhere, or setting up their own businesses. In continental Europe, by contrast, tech firms are still negotiating lay-offs, and may think twice about hiring there in future.
Americans should find the economy’s performance reassuring. If history is a guide, living standards will continue to go up for the next generation, even as the country bears the costs of decarbonising the economy. Yet, resilient as the growth record has been, there are shadows. The middle class has seen its post-tax incomes rise by less than those of both the poorest and the richest. A group of people have fallen into hard times. The share of prime-age American men who are not in work has been rising for years and is higher than in Britain, France and Germany. And life expectancy in America lags shamefully behind others in the rich world, mainly on account of too many younger people dying from drug overdoses and gun violence. Tackling such problems should be easier when the economy as a whole is growing. But America’s poisonous politics are no help.

In addition, the more that Americans think their economy is a problem in need of fixing, the more likely their politicians are to mess up the next 30 years. Although America’s openness brought prosperity for its firms and its consumers, both Mr Trump and Mr Biden have turned to protectionism and the politics of immigration have become toxic. Subsidies could boost investment in deprived areas in the short term, but risk dulling market incentives to innovate. In the long run they will also entrench wasteful and distorting
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. The rise of China and the need to fight climate change both confront America with fresh challenges. All the more reason, then, to remember what has powered its long and successful run.
They're doing miles better than UK or Japan, I'll give them that any day on the week. They're basically doing as good at their best as China at its worst. Which sounds bad but it's absolutely not bad for the no2 economy.

If their competitor was anyone except China, it would have been sufficient.

The problem for US is that at 3% growth they will never catch up. US achieving 5 let alone 10% growth seems impossible.

It isn't as if most of the great economy achievements you can list for America are fake, it's just that China has equal or even betters ones.

Besides China is not yet getting the stability dividend from being the major global reserve currency yet, and US has yet to feel the full shock of being reduced to a bilateral settlement currency. Yet even in this situation, China maintains a stronger economy, larger market, more globally controlling tech and industry sector and higher scientific output. So if US doesn't use the time it has left to somehow get 10% growth and quickly run past China, the chances to do that will disappear permanently.
 

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It is hardly surprising that Europe and Japan are lagging behind since the US economy has been cannibalizing them for like 20 years at least. Next time you hear someone question why Europe is behind on IT just ask yourself what happened to Skype, Nokia, and MySQL. They were all either torpedoed or bought out by moneyed US interests who then proceeded to dismantle these companies. As for Japan, they lost their advantage in the hardware industry after the Plaza Accords where they negotiated where they have to import chips, regardless if they need to import them or not.

Since you basically are not allowed to go into hi-tech, why bother even trying? So these countries will continue to lag behind economically.
 

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Retail sales in the US sank 1% month-over-month in March of 2023, following a downwardly revised 0.2% fall in February, and way more than market forecasts of a 0.4% drop, in a sign cost pressures and rising interest rates are weighing on consumers' willingness to spend. Biggest declines were seen in sales at gasoline stations (-5.5%), mostly driven by lower prices; general merchandise stores (-3%); building materials and garden equipment (-2.1%); electronics and appliances (-2.1%); clothing (-1.7%); motor vehicle dealers (-1.6%); furniture (-1.2%). Sales at food and beverages stores edged 0.1% lower. On the other hand, sales rose 1.9% at nonstore retailers and 0.1% at food services and drinking places. The so-called core retail sales which exclude automobiles, gasoline, building materials and food services and relate more with the consumer spending component of GDP, went down 0.3%. Retail sales aren’t adjusted for inflation.

source: U.S. Census Bureau
 
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