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Bernard

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Saudis believe Trump will unleash America's economy
Count Saudi Arabia among the believers in Donald Trump's ability to make America grow again.
Saudi Arabia is downplaying the need for OPEC to make good on its promise to cut oil production at Wednesday's meeting in Vienna. That promise was
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, back when President-elect Trump was still a long shot to win the White House.


But Khalid al-Falih, the Saudi energy minister, on Sunday said there will be more thirst for oil in 2017 and oil prices will stabilize without OPEC intervention.

"I don't think that we have one path only in OPEC meetings," Falih said, according to a
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"Maintaining production is justifiable, taking into consideration the recovery of consumption and growth in developing markets and the United States," he said.

While Falih didn't name Trump specifically, his comments suggest Saudi Arabia has faith in the new administration's ability to unleash U.S. economic growth -- and thus demand for oil. Trump has called for stimulating the American economy by
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and ramping up
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on roads, bridges and airports.

Trump has also promised to make life easier on the fossil fuel industry by
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. That could include weakening EPA fuel efficiency standards and other regulations that have curbed demand for gasoline (and thus oil).

Saudi Arabia's optimism in U.S. demand for oil stands in contrast with more conservative forecasts from independent analysts. As of Election Day, the U.S. Energy Information Administration was calling for motor gasoline consumption to inch up 0.5% in 2017. That's hardly the kind of boom in demand that would take pressure off OPEC.

The EIA also predicted U.S. petroleum and other liquids consumption will rise 1.3% next year to 19.9 million barrels per day. Again, not a huge uptick there. (The EIA is set to release its first post-election short-term outlook next week.)

Michael Block, chief market strategist at Rhino Trading, said the Saudi comments are the latest sign of over-exuberance in the markets about the power of Trump's stimulus plans.

"Apparently Steve Bannon has worked his hypnotic magic on our pals in Riyadh," Block joked in a note, referring to Trump's chief strategist.

"There you have it. We don't need production deals or trade deals because reflation and stimulus are going to push demand and everyone wins. All I need to do is snap my fingers," Block wrote.

The Saudi optimism in U.S. oil demand is also noteworthy given Trump's previous threat to cut off American purchases of Saudi oil.
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he might halt imports of oil from Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries if they didn't commit ground troops to fight ISIS or at least reimburse the U.S.

Falih has since
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, saying it could backfire.

"At his heart, President-elect Trump will see the benefits and I think the oil industry will also be advising him accordingly that blocking trade in any product is not healthy," Falih
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The Saudis may also be trying to brace the markets in case OPEC infighting scuttles a deal. The cartel reached a preliminary agreement in September for what would have been the first production cut in two years.

But turning that into a concrete deal has proved difficult. While the Saudis have signaled a willingness to cut output, the kingdom doesn't want to bear the pain alone. Yet Iran and Iraq have been more resistant to dialing back production. Iran in particular doesn't want to make any cuts before it fully recovers from sanctions.

Oil prices jumped more than 2% above $47.25 a barrel on Monday amid hopes that a deal will eventually be reached.

"Some OPEC agreement would presumably prevent a repeat of the collapse in oil prices that has followed some previous OPEC get-togethers," David Kelly, chief global strategist at JPMorgan Funds, wrote in a note.

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only now I noticed President-Elect Donald J. Trump Names Carl Icahn Special Advisor to the President on Regulatory Reform
President-elect Donald J. Trump today announced that Carl Icahn has agreed to serve as a special advisor to the President on issues relating to regulatory reform.
Over the course of six decades, Mr. Icahn has distinguished himself as one of America’s most successful businessmen and investors. Mr. Icahn was one of President-elect Trump’s earliest supporters, and his intimate knowledge of what businesses need to grow and thrive makes him a trusted voice in developing President-elect Trump’s America First economic agenda. Icahn will be a leader in helping American entrepreneurs shed job-killing regulations that stifle economic growth.
“Carl was with me from the beginning and with his being one of the world’s great businessmen, that was something I truly appreciated,” said President-elect Trump. “He is not only a brilliant negotiator, but also someone who is innately able to predict the future especially having to do with finances and economies. His help on the strangling regulations that our country is faced with will be invaluable.”
“I am proud to serve President-elect Trump as a special advisor on regulatory reform,” said Mr. Icahn. “Under President Obama, America’s business owners have been crippled by over $1 trillion in new regulations and over 750 billion hours dealing with paperwork. It’s time to break free of excessive regulation and let our entrepreneurs do what they do best: create jobs and support communities. President-elect Trump is serious about helping American families, and regulatory reform will be a critical component of making America work again.”
Mr. Icahn is a New York City native and grew up in Far Rockaway, Queens. After receiving a degree in philosophy from Princeton University in 1957, he attended medical school at New York University and then joined the Army. Carl began his career on Wall Street in 1961. In 1968, he formed Icahn & Co., and has gone on to become one of the most well-known and influential investors in America, holding substantial or controlling positions in numerous American companies over the years, including RJR Nabisco, Texaco, Philips Petroleum, Western Union, Gulf & Western, Viacom, Revlon, Time Warner, Motorola, Chesapeake Energy, Dell, Netflix, Apple, and eBay. His efforts have improved the competitiveness of American companies in a wide range of industries, including real estate, telecommunications, transportation, industrial services, oil refining and manufacturing.
Carl has been deeply involved in many charitable endeavors for years. In 2012, in recognition of Carl’s gift of $200 million, the Mount Sinai School of Medicine was renamed the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai and the Institute of Genomics was renamed the Icahn Genomics Institute. The School of Medicine also established the Icahn Scholars Program to attract world-class physician-scientists. He also funded the Icahn Medical Institute Building at Mount Sinai Hospital and the Institute of Genomics, a genomics and multi-scale biology research program. Carl serves as a trustee on the boards of the School of Medicine and Mount Sinai Hospital.
In the realm of education, Carl established seven Icahn Charter Schools in The Bronx borough of New York City. The mission of the schools is based on the belief that all students deserve a rigorous academic program through which they will increase their capacity to learn. At Choate Rosemary Hall, a premiere boarding school located in Wallingford, Connecticut, where he previously served on the board of trustees, he endowed the Icahn Scholars Program, which has awarded a large number of scholarships to underprivileged students.
Carl has also made significant donations to the Randall’s Island Sports Foundation, where he previously served as a trustee, for the construction of Icahn Stadium, a track and field stadium located on Randall’s Island. In addition, he has served as a trustee on the board of Lincoln Center.
Carl Icahn will be advising the President in his individual capacity and will not be serving as a federal employee or a Special Government Employee and will not have any specific duties.
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AssassinsMace

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We're in for interesting times ahead. I know like with Trump he doesn't think of the consequences because he believes the US needs no one so there would be no consequences. As Trump turns the screws on Mexico, it'll be interesting to see what Mexico does. Since Trump is going to target China too, maybe we'll see a Chinese surveillance aircraft taking off from Mexico flying up and down the US coast 12 miles off-shore.
 

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We're in for interesting times ahead. I know like with Trump he doesn't think of the consequences because he believes the US needs no one so there would be no consequences. As Trump turns the screws on Mexico, it'll be interesting to see what Mexico does. Since Trump is going to target China too, maybe we'll see a Chinese surveillance aircraft taking off from Mexico flying up and down the US coast 12 miles off-shore.

Trump would change his tones in no time ..... just in a blink of eye ;) ... interesting to see the level of US credibility by the end of 2017
 
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We're in for interesting times ahead. I know like with Trump he doesn't think of the consequences because he believes the US needs no one so there would be no consequences. As Trump turns the screws on Mexico, it'll be interesting to see what Mexico does. Since Trump is going to target China too, maybe we'll see a Chinese surveillance aircraft taking off from Mexico flying up and down the US coast 12 miles off-shore.

Shoot, wait till Mexico will do more open trades with China. That will get Trump to rethink about Mexico paying for building that border wall.o_O
 

AssassinsMace

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Shoot, wait till Mexico will do more open trades with China. That will get Trump to rethink about Mexico paying for building that border wall.o_O


Yeah there are enough people in Congress that will stop Trump before you start hearing people cry out, "Who lost Mexico!" It really depends on how angry Mexico is with Trump. China doesn't have to do anything.
 
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Equation

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Yeah there are enough people in Congress that will stop Trump before you start hearing people cry out, "Who lost Mexico!" It really depends on how angry Mexico is with Trump. China doesn't have to do anything.

That's already starting to happen.

Former Mexican president
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took to Twitter on Friday to clarify one particular issue for President-elect
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: He is not going to pay for any wall on the Mexican-American border.

The 74-year-old politician first tweeted about the issue in early 2016, when Trump, 70, proposed to build a wall along the U.S. border with Mexico and make them pay for it.

Fox
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to block out Mexican immigrants in February 2016, saying, “I’m not going to pay for that f—ing wall. He should pay for it.”

In Thursday’s tweet, he reiterated his message, tweeting, “TRUMP, when will you understand that I am not paying for that f—— wall. Be clear with US tax payers. They will pay for it.”
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Guadalajara (Mexico) (AFP) - The Mexican authorities have arrested the alleged gunman who shot and wounded an official from the US consulate in the western city of Guadalajara, prosecutors said Sunday.

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