zraver:
1. I'd like to see some evidence that Alexander had missile troops with superior range and penetrating power than the Qin crossbowmen. (Good luck with that!)
Of course, since your convinced of the superiority of crossbows, then no evidence will suffice. Even the rather overrated English longbow could out range late medieval crossbows that used iron bows.
2. You're confusing formation with organization. A loose-formation infantry isn't disorganized, they just stand further apart.
The further apart the less control= disorganized. Commands only carry so far to make up the difference you need more leaders or flags and the whole process gets slowed down.
In fact, your example of race cars vs traffic jam proves my point: the race cars are certainly further apart from each other than cars in a traffic jam. But then again, maybe it just demonstrates your confusion of formation vs organization.
Use youtube look up drafting.
3. Are you actually, honest-to-god, claiming that combined forces in a bad thing???
No I said mixed units is a bad thing, learn the difference.
Maybe you should actually read up on Alexander, and how he *really* used your vaunted sarissa phalanxes.
I am well aware
FYI, the Greeks got slaughtered when they started concentrating on pure phalanxes and eschewing the combined arms approach.
But we are not talking about a pure phalanx.
4. Are you seriously trying to claim that Qin soldiers didn't have access to helmets and shields?
No I am saying the terracotta army can't say to opposing things at the same time. If they had helms or sheilds provide the proof.
Crossbowmen and riflemen use firing line tactics because it's not about the number of bolts loosed, but the concentration of firepower. A charging phalanx will inevitably be slowed as its front ranks fall from a crossbow barrage. The rotating firing line ensures that the enemy will receive a nigh constant barrage of bolts.
Your bad at math that much is obvious. The ultimate rate of fire determines the effectiveness. No matter how you set your crossbow up the slow rate of fire is going to limit the effectiveness.
In a real battle scenario, there's no way Alexander would be dumb enough to charge his phalanx against 3 lines of Qin Crossbowmen, unless he really has no clue what crossbows were capable of. Unfortunately for Alexander, whatever else he has, the Qin probably had better: swordsmen, cavalry, archers, you name it.
Obvious fanboi I see. Alexander used his Phalanx to turn back elephants and crushed dozens of missile based armies.