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Back then, airplanes could not carry as much ordinance as they do today and as far.
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Back then, airplanes could not carry as much ordinance as they do today and as far.
Yes of course
I remember a video were an aircraft landed on a rather jovil moving "carrier". It rolled out 2m, then toppled to the side and stood still.
Todays striking power was probably unimaginable back then.
Very true. When the IJN attacked the Americans at Pearl Harbor most of those aircraft had one torpedo or one bomb and what ever gun ammo they carried..
Yea I noticed you moved the Kennedy off the list. She has three more days until decomissioning. The JFK was my first ship back in March 1972. In fact I arrive their on 24 March 1972. 35 years ago.
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joshuatree
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Even at 11, it's more than adequate. Unless there's some global war to be waged in the future, I don't recall the US ever sending out all 12 carriers at one time.
Even at 11, it's more than adequate. Unless there's some global war to be waged in the future, I don't recall the US ever sending out all 12 carriers at one time.
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Looking at that chart the life span of the Kitty Hawk will far out last her sisters. Take a look at the America... CV-63 will be in service 16 more years than CV-66. Amazing.
The diffrence? CV-63 had a SLEP. a SLEP is a three year re-fit. CV-66 had none. CV-63 is in Japan being maintained by the shipyard workers in Japan and American sailors. Major Re-fits were cancelled for CV-66. Her longest re-fit was about 11 months...
Looking at that chart the life span of the Kitty Hawk will far out last her sisters. Take a look at the America... CV-63 will be in service 16 more years than CV-66. Amazing.
The diffrence? CV-63 had a SLEP. a SLEP is a three year re-fit. CV-66 had none. CV-63 is in Japan being maintained by the shipyard workers in Japan and American sailors. Major Re-fits were cancelled for CV-66. Her longest re-fit was about 11 months...
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Re: All about the Chinese Carrier II
yeas that is true, since even at 12 carriers one of them is always in reserve anyway. at the current fleet of 12 ships, 11 are deployable and one in reserve, so when they retire the JFK with no replacement for 10 years the 11 remaining ships will still be deployable.
yeas that is true, since even at 12 carriers one of them is always in reserve anyway. at the current fleet of 12 ships, 11 are deployable and one in reserve, so when they retire the JFK with no replacement for 10 years the 11 remaining ships will still be deployable.
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I am more interested in procurement numbers and retirement schedule of USN planes, mainly f18a/b/c/d/e/f and f35c. It looks to me like there will simply be too few planes in the future to warrant 12 carriers. With nimitz class still having life in it, i see delays in next gen carrier programme, (monetary reasony only, of course) with some 6 or 7 years of build time between new carriers.
I am more interested in procurement numbers and retirement schedule of USN planes, mainly f18a/b/c/d/e/f and f35c. It looks to me like there will simply be too few planes in the future to warrant 12 carriers. With nimitz class still having life in it, i see delays in next gen carrier programme, (monetary reasony only, of course) with some 6 or 7 years of build time between new carriers.
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Then we look at the Big "E". 52 years of service when she is decomm'ed. Truly, she will be the "Old Lady of the Sea".
Between the SLEP and the TLC in Japan...that counts for lots, lots of extra years service.
Then we look at the Big "E". 52 years of service when she is decomm'ed. Truly, she will be the "Old Lady of the Sea".
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What's the chances some billionaire 'Trekkie' buys her to turn into a museum just so he can brag at conventions that he 'owns' the real Enterprise?:roll:
But seriously, as there are already a number of preserved CVs in the US what are the chances of her avoiding being turned into razor blades after many years swinging at her moorings, or joining the Oriskany as a playground for divers (my eldest brother is a SCUBA instructor, and has dived many wrecks in the Red Sea. I'm thinking of asking him for lessons...)?
What's the chances some billionaire 'Trekkie' buys her to turn into a museum just so he can brag at conventions that he 'owns' the real Enterprise?:roll:
But seriously, as there are already a number of preserved CVs in the US what are the chances of her avoiding being turned into razor blades after many years swinging at her moorings, or joining the Oriskany as a playground for divers (my eldest brother is a SCUBA instructor, and has dived many wrecks in the Red Sea. I'm thinking of asking him for lessons...)?
When the Enterprise is decomissioned it will be quite an undertaking. Those nuclear reactors have to be removed and rendered safe for disposal. Quite a job. I think the only shipyard in the US that does that sort of work is Puget Sound Naval Shipyard in Bremerton WA.
Trust me, that job will not be cheap.
Trust me, that job will not be cheap.
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