Aircraft Carriers III

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gelgoog

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Russia has the MiG 29K and they could make a carrier capable version of the Su-57 for a CATOBAR carrier.
But given current fiscal restraints and the existing building program the carriers would only be built after the LHDs. I think at best they would start construction in the middle of this decade.
 
NiuBiDaRen

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Totoro said:
South Korea is exploring and investing in carrier options as well. More seriously than Turkey, I'd say.

Also, talking about just ambition, Brazil definitely has ambition to operate carriers. Their lack of money forced them to get rid of their carrier, and nothing else. So by 2050 it's perfectly possible they will be once again operating a carrier. Indonesia too might join that club by 2050. If indeed it manages to be so successful economically as the table projects. After all, its an island nation, covering a huge territory - it could be better served by a carrier than some of the other countries on the list.
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South Korea was exploring two carrier options - one for 40,000 ton and the other for 80,000 ton. The 80,000 ton option obviously isn't going to be realized and just for national pomposity. However the 40,000 ton is slightly more feasible, and to a certain extent the Koreans want to one-up the Japanese by having something bigger than anything the Japanese currently have.

Indonesia could do well with LPDs. China should explore selling LPDs to Indonesia like it did with Thailand and Malaysia. Indonesia's shipbuilding industry is far too weak to make its own LPD. There's cost-effectiveness in procuring a Chinese LPD. However the Indonesian economy is too weak even now to deal with an LPD, and would have to wait at least 10 years.
 
azretonov

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The major problem with Russia is that, there is no infrastructure to support even the current bunch of relics. There is only one functional dry dock right now and it is and will be occupied by Kirov class cruisers for the next half a decade. So the best course of action to keep the Kuznetsov afloat for an other decade to explore the options in future, when conditions permit.
 
Austin Powers

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KampfAlwin said:
Off topic - but what makes you think Russia can operate 4 supercarriers lol? Their economy is in the shitters and the UK, with almost twice the GDP, struggles to afford more than 2 STOBAR carriers.
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Russia has far less cost than Britain. You have to compare apple with apple, not apple with orange. Russia has twice the population of Britain. There's no reason to suggest Russia cannot operate 4 aircraft carriers. And I'm sure they will if they deem the need to do so.
 
j17wang

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Crang said:
South Korea was exploring two carrier options - one for 40,000 ton and the other for 80,000 ton. The 80,000 ton option obviously isn't going to be realized and just for national pomposity. However the 40,000 ton is slightly more feasible, and to a certain extent the Koreans want to one-up the Japanese by having something bigger than anything the Japanese currently have.

Indonesia could do well with LPDs. China should explore selling LPDs to Indonesia like it did with Thailand and Malaysia. Indonesia's shipbuilding industry is far too weak to make its own LPD. There's cost-effectiveness in procuring a Chinese LPD. However the Indonesian economy is too weak even now to deal with an LPD, and would have to wait at least 10 years.
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LPDs are generally the cost of a frigate, so could be viable for thailand/indonesia as a flagship asset if they wanted one.

China should be supportive of Korean ambitions when it comes to carriers. It would provide increased offensive capabilities and potential independence to Korean navy while at the same time it wouldn't be a threat to china (or at not practically increase the threat that korea could already wield against China). Also, a militarized korean navy could be used to also show that military spending in entire region is growing in lockstep.
 
Austin Powers

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Intrepid said:
In the past 20 years they spent not enough money to keep at least one airwing current. I guess they have no need for carriers.
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Russia does not have far away islands like Britain, France, US do. The furthest Russian islands are Kurils which are within 1000 km of mainland. Russia has no need for aircraft carrier.
 
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