Aircraft Carriers III
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TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
The good news first, last updated all released from hospital.
the bad news the ship started beltching black smoke.
most of the smoke has since died down.
She has seen better days.
the bad news the ship started beltching black smoke.
most of the smoke has since died down.
She has seen better days.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
48 hours.
It’s said that only a fire in the forward section continues to burn. It’s was in a compartment unable to be reached till now. There is a second hot spot possible fire aft.
61 were injured none hospitalized.
fire started fore spread aft. Ship is stable to early to tell damage.
Engine spaces secure no fuel leak.
It’s said that only a fire in the forward section continues to burn. It’s was in a compartment unable to be reached till now. There is a second hot spot possible fire aft.
61 were injured none hospitalized.
fire started fore spread aft. Ship is stable to early to tell damage.
Engine spaces secure no fuel leak.
Mr T
Senior Member
Reportedly the fires are all out now. Also, I read that Rear Admiral Sobeck has said the ship can be repaired but that it's not clear yet if it will be - i.e. the damage could be so extensive that it wouldn't be cost-effective to repair it.
I'm very glad that no one died in the fire. It was very unfortunate it caught fire during maintenance, as that meant the fire-suppression systems were turned off. Then again, it meant there were fewer people on board at the time.
I'm very glad that no one died in the fire. It was very unfortunate it caught fire during maintenance, as that meant the fire-suppression systems were turned off. Then again, it meant there were fewer people on board at the time.
Memories of the Kuznetsov fire indeed. Glad no lives were lost.
broadsword
Brigadier
Is that routinely done?
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
In this case part of the upgrades included the fire suppression systems. As such their deactivation was inevitable. All systems need repair and maintenance at some point.
As I mentioned in an earlier post [#4,020], when assessing the capability of an aircraft carrier we need to look firstly at the ship itself and the aircraft it is operating. The U.S. military has made much of the “Lightning Carrier” concept as a significant capability. The LHA/LHD + F-35B system (“Lightning Carriers”) - a V/STOL aircraft carrier - combines a very good amphibious assault ship and a stealthy strike fighter that at maturity will be a very fine aircraft. However, as an aircraft carrier system there are some significant issues.
The vessel itself:
- low 20kts speed
- position of port side lift can impact flight operations
- no sky jump likely reduces F-35B range/payload performance
The aircraft (F-35B):
- no folding wing results in a larger footprint than would otherwise be (Note the F-35B has a larger footprint than a folded F-35C)
- no internal gun (addition of stealthy external gun pod adds approx. 383kgs and likely impacts RCS, to an unknown degree)
- no ability to utilise “Sidekick” racks for additional AIM-120 missiles
- limited up to 1000lb weapons on outboard stations in weapons bay
Unknowns:
- what is the bring back load for vertical landings?
- what is the range/payload performance without sky jump?
- can the Joint Strike Missile be carried internally in the F-35B?
The vessel itself:
- low 20kts speed
- position of port side lift can impact flight operations
- no sky jump likely reduces F-35B range/payload performance
The aircraft (F-35B):
- no folding wing results in a larger footprint than would otherwise be (Note the F-35B has a larger footprint than a folded F-35C)
- no internal gun (addition of stealthy external gun pod adds approx. 383kgs and likely impacts RCS, to an unknown degree)
- no ability to utilise “Sidekick” racks for additional AIM-120 missiles
- limited up to 1000lb weapons on outboard stations in weapons bay
Unknowns:
- what is the bring back load for vertical landings?
- what is the range/payload performance without sky jump?
- can the Joint Strike Missile be carried internally in the F-35B?