Aircraft Carriers III

Obi Wan Russell

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TERENCE! LOOKING READY!
For those not in the know... Terence is the nickname given to HMS QE's mobile heavy lift deck crane - based on its manufacturer's brand name - Terex. Terence remains on the flight deck primarily as an emergency lift capability to move crashed, wrecked or otherwise immobile aircraft from critical areas of the flight deck, and maybe even dispose of the problem overboard. Lets hope Terence's services are never really needed. Spot Terence on the various pictures of the QE class flight decks as time goes by!42350844_10155591800881481_1946912433373184000_n.jpg 42246735_1108924249266839_7664985759576752128_n.jpg
 

Obi Wan Russell

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In Carrier related news:
617 SQN - NEW STANDARD PRESENTED
On 21 Sep 18 at RAF Marham - the home of the U.K. Joint Lightning Force National Operating Centre (UK JLF NOC), the Chief of the Air Staff, Sir Steven Hillier, presented 617 Sqn with its new Squadron Standard. Standards are awarded to active Sqns by HMQ after an initial 25 years service and every similar period thereafter. 617 Sqn celebrated its 75th anniversary in 2018 so this is the 3rd new Standard it has been awarded in its history. The old one will no doubt be laid up in Lincoln Cathedral to fade away over the decades in honour of its Bomber Command origins.
Two of the 4 attached pictures shows the (bad weather) parade held in a Marham hangar with 4 of 617’s 9 F35B Lightnings and 2 equal sized Sqn Flights on parade - one made up of RAF personnel and the other FAA personnel. Note the Sqn Parade Warrant Officer is a FAA WO. This fully exemplifying the fully Joint nature of 617 Sqn’s make up now as the first UK operational F35B Lightning unit. All UK F35B flying units are and will be fully Jointly staffed in such a way.
While the present OC 617 Sqn is an RAF Wg Cdr, his recently announced successor taking over later in 2019 will be an RN FAA Cdr.42205434_10160832841065414_7769566323448741888_n.jpg 42332498_10155588924911481_3515798393861439488_n.jpg 42261257_10155588924771481_2788826718897438720_n.jpg 42356073_10155588924836481_5238954107833679872_n.jpg
 
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USS Dwight D. Eisenhower Repair Period Triples in Length; Carrier Will be in Yard Until 2019
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"Still, the delay creates a headache for the East Coast carrier fleet in terms of operational availability: IKE is in the yard, Bush is waiting to get into the yard after finishing a seven-month deployment in August 2017, USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN-72) is working up with its air wing for the first time since completing its mid-life Refueling and Complex Overhaul last year but will relocate to the West Coast – though the Navy has not said if the move will happen before its next deployment or upon return – USS George Washington (CVN-73) is currently in its RCOH, and new carrier USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78) is conducting its post-shakedown availability at the Newport News Shipbuilding yard. That leaves just USS Harry S. Truman (CVN-75) on the East Coast, which is currently deployed to the North Atlantic. With IKE running so far behind schedule, it is unclear if Truman would have to conduct operational work during the “sustainment” phase of its Optimized Fleet Response Plan cycle – which includes maintenance, basic training, deployment and then sustainment, when the crew remains ready to surge naval presence around the world if called upon."
 

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Sad indeed. Anytime a shipmate is lost it is very sad.

Onboard USS Midway from OCT '73 to OCT '74 we lost 12 shipmates. Very sad....
I know carriers are tough dangerous places to work,but twelve men lost in one year is hard to believe.
Not that I doubt what you are saying for one second.
Were those individual events or something more calamitous that cause a great loss of life at once?
No problem is you don't want to talk about it.
 

Roberto

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I know carriers are tough dangerous places to work,but twelve men lost in one year is hard to believe.
Not that I doubt what you are saying for one second.
Were those individual events or something more calamitous that cause a great loss of life at once?
No problem is you don't want to talk about it.
If
 

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I know carriers are tough dangerous places to work,but twelve men lost in one year is hard to believe.
Not that I doubt what you are saying for one second.
Were those individual events or something more calamitous that cause a great loss of life at once?
No problem is you don't want to talk about it.

There was a little know catastrophic event that occurred on October 22nd 1973 when three aircraft crashed.

From Navysite....
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"Evening of October 22nd 1973...An SH-3G helicopter assigned to HC-1 crashes off MIDWAY's bow on take-off for an SAR mission. All three crew on board are killed. The helicopter was supposed to get underway to the crash site of two other MIDWAY aircraft that had a mid-air collision. Involved in the mid-air collision were an A-7A (VA-56) and an EA-6A (VMCJ-1). This collision killed all three crew of the aircraft involved."

This is the in memoriam page from the 1974 USS Midway cruise book.

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The other deaths are from still more crashes. One shipmate was murdered while on leave in the Republic of the Philippines. Not sure how the last shipmate on the list died.

In 1981 aboard USS America (CV 66) we lost ZERO shipmates. On Nimitz in 1991 we lost no shipmates during the deployment.
 

Roberto

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There was a little know catastrophic event that occurred on October 22nd 1973 when three aircraft crashed.

From Navysite....
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"Evening of October 22nd 1973...An SH-3G helicopter assigned to HC-1 crashes off MIDWAY's bow on take-off for an SAR mission. All three crew on board are killed. The helicopter was supposed to get underway to the crash site of two other MIDWAY aircraft that had a mid-air collision. Involved in the mid-air collision were an A-7A (VA-56) and an EA-6A (VMCJ-1). This collision killed all three crew of the aircraft involved."

This is the in memoriam page from the 1974 USS Midway cruise book.

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The other deaths are from still more crashes. One shipmate was murdered while on leave in the Republic of the Philippines. Not sure how the last shipmate on the list died.

In 1981 aboard USS America (CV 66) we lost ZERO shipmates. On Nimitz in 1991 we lost no shipmates during the deployment.
Tragic loss of life. Thanks for the story.
 
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What will launch from France’s future aircraft carrier? The government and Navy are teaming up to find out
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The French procurement office and the Navy will submit proposals to the Armed Forces Ministry based on
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for a future aircraft carrier, according to the head of the naval armaments operations unit at the Direction Générale de l’Armement.

The DGA and the Navy have been working on a “reflection for definition studies,” with those studies required to launch the carrier project, Laurent Sellier told Defense News on Sept. 24. Industry has served as observer, while the procurement office and service lead the discussions.

The studies will consider the future carrier’s capability to carry
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, as well as drones, he said. It will be up to the ministry to “greenlight” the contracts for the carrier.

Sellier was speaking on the sidelines of a news conference held by Gican, the industry association backing the Euronaval trade show, which opens Oct. 23.

Dassault Aviation, shipbuilder Naval Group and electronics specialist Thales have been sitting in on the discussions led by DGA and the Navy, an industry executive told Defense News. “There is close teamwork on tackling the overall problem,” the executive said.

The DGA and the Navy launched the first study at the end of August, examining lessons learned on aircraft carriers in operation and reviewing operational requirements of the future carrier, the executive said.

Thales could contribute its experience from working on the British carrier Queen Elizabeth. Other companies, such as MBDA, could be invited to take part in the studies.

A second study, largely steered by the DGA, will focus on technology and overall architecture, including onboard combat systems, system of systems and naval architecture, the executive said. That study is expected to be launched toward the end of October or early November.

The overall dossier comprising the two studies is expected to be completed at the end of 2019 or early 2020, and will allow the authorities to decide the capabilities of the ship. The studies will consider key factors such as size of the vessel, propulsion — both conventional and nuclear — and aircraft-launching capabilities.

The aircraft will not be included in the carrier budget but will be a major element in design and construction of the ship, which will be a system of systems. The studies will help determine the budget for the carrier.

There have been three large carriers built in the West — the U.S. Navy’s Gerald R. Ford and America, and the British Royal Navy’s Queen Elizabeth — since France launched the Charles de Gaulle, said Robbin Laird, an analyst with consultancy ICSA, based in Washington and Paris.

Any French study should look at those ships and see the technology available for a new carrier, such as an electromagnetic aircraft-launch system, he said. The French should consider the impact from an “evolving force system,” such as the use of direct-energy weapons for close-in defense and the integration of air and sea systems, he added.

Another major factor in designing a new carrier could involve France’s adaptation of the planned Franco-German jet fighter to a carrier-based version, he said. That future fighter will replace the Rafale and Eurofighter Typhoon.

Britain and Italy will fly the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter from their carriers, he said. That deployment of the F-35 calls for interoperability of the future French carrier and its aircraft with operators of the jet.

French Navy pilots have flown the Rafale from U.S. carriers as part of training, French Navy Rear Adm. Gilles Boidevezi told news conference attendees.

The French Navy sent pilots, support staff, 12 Rafale jets and a Hawkeye spy plane to the U.S. earlier this year to qualify and train with the U.S. Navy. The French pilots flew from the George H.W. Bush carrier, sailing out of Newport naval base.

The Charles de Gaulle recently began sea trials from Toulon naval base after some 18 months of a major overhaul in dry dock. The upgrade included replacing onboard nuclear fuel and modernization of the combat and telecommunications systems. The carrier will now solely fly the Rafale, having withdrawn from service the Super Etendard fighter.
 
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