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Yeah and they have to close the pubs in the afternoon to get you chaps back to work
Preparations continue:
During the two days embarked package the Merlin was used to verify many of the flight deck and hangar facilities by connecting up to the ship’s onboard electrical supply cables and refueling hoses, as well as test the important ‘Telebrief’ system which will enable Flying Control – ‘FLYCO’ – to communicate with each aircraft whilst on deck.
It also gave the firefighting and rescue crews a chance to practice emergency drills and skills necessary to operating safely at sea, when time is of the essence on a busy carrier deck.
“Completing ‘SAT (Air)’ is crucial to getting the Ship ready to operate the whole spectrum of aircraft that we will be working with in the future,” continued Lt Cdr Cobbett.
“Introducing the Ship to aviation and aviation to the Ship is all part of the learning structure we are going through.
"We are taking it slowly at first before we embark whole squadrons of rotary and fixed wing aircraft.”
HMS Queen Elizabeth will sail from her home port for rotary wing trial at sea in the coming weeks, where she will undergo deck trials with Royal Navy Merlin helicopters.
Later this year fixed wing trials will begin with the F35B in the summer.
Meanwhile several hundred miles to the North:
During the two days embarked package the Merlin was used to verify many of the flight deck and hangar facilities by connecting up to the ship’s onboard electrical supply cables and refueling hoses, as well as test the important ‘Telebrief’ system which will enable Flying Control – ‘FLYCO’ – to communicate with each aircraft whilst on deck.
It also gave the firefighting and rescue crews a chance to practice emergency drills and skills necessary to operating safely at sea, when time is of the essence on a busy carrier deck.
“Completing ‘SAT (Air)’ is crucial to getting the Ship ready to operate the whole spectrum of aircraft that we will be working with in the future,” continued Lt Cdr Cobbett.
“Introducing the Ship to aviation and aviation to the Ship is all part of the learning structure we are going through.
"We are taking it slowly at first before we embark whole squadrons of rotary and fixed wing aircraft.”
HMS Queen Elizabeth will sail from her home port for rotary wing trial at sea in the coming weeks, where she will undergo deck trials with Royal Navy Merlin helicopters.
Later this year fixed wing trials will begin with the F35B in the summer.
Meanwhile several hundred miles to the North:
Looking forward to seeing that.
@Obi Wan Russell ...will those trials include USMC F-35Bs, or will they be RN F-35Bs?
At present the first F-35B trials aboard HMS QE in the Autumn will involve between two and four aircraft and personnel from 17(R) sqn RAF based in the US. The possibility of some USMC aircraft participating gas not been ruled out AFAIK. 617 sqn will stand up later this year in the US and transfer to RAF Marham with between 6-9 aircraft and build to full strength next year. 207 sqn will stand up next year as the OCU /HQ sqn, and 809NAS will stand up in 2023 under the current schedule. QE is due back in drydock in 2019 for re certification and this coincides with the dates for the phase II shipboard trials, so the plan is to make sure PoW has completed her sea trial and been commissioned by then.
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in this case well done !You confirm ? 12 F-35B for a Sqn coz in theory Typhoons Sqns front line ofc have 13 whose 1 two-seater in fact 11 to 15 and Tornados 16 in fact 12 i have
But a little curious different number for F-35B maybe in relation with 48 ordered... also USN going to use Sqns with 10 C then Super Hornets units have 12 but surely for price reason.
Jura The idiot
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Jura The idiot
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now noticed the tweet
. documentary about progress of 'Royal Navy: Carrier Strike’ to be shown on BBC2 - now scheduled for March
. documentary about progress of 'Royal Navy: Carrier Strike’ to be shown on BBC2 - now scheduled for March
The preferred sqn size for UK F-35Bs has been set at 12 for over ten years now. There are no twin seat Lightnings, training will be conducted on simulators,- both QECs will have two simulators aboard ship linked to a flyco simulator so sorties can be practiced before taking off. Similarly there will be simulators at the Lightning's home base at RAF Marham to compensate for the lack of two-seaters. 12 aircraft sqns have been calculated as necessary to provide a round the clock two aircraft CAP for air defence as well as a standby small anti ship strike package and one or two aircraft in maintenance at any given time. As a basic force protection and limited strike capability a single sqn of 12 packs a hefty punch, which is why most Naval Harrier operators go with it as the model.Your chart
You confirm ? 12 F-35B for a Sqn coz in theory Typhoons Sqns front line ofc have 13 whose 1 two-seater in fact 11 to 15 and Tornados 16 in fact 12 i have
But a little curious different number for F-35B maybe in relation with 48 ordered... also USN going to use Sqns with 10 C then Super Hornets units have 12 but surely for price reason.
In the Sea Harrier days the RN originally went with 5 aircraft sqns (two CAPs alternating between high readiness deck alert and 30 minute readiness as back up and a fifth aircraft as a spare). Five aircraft was seen as the minimum needed to provide a credible 'Hack the Shad' capability (interception of a shadowing Russian Bomber in the North Atlantic) without arousing the suspicion of the RAF that the RN was getting back into the carrier game properly, but the plan was always to boost the numbers of SHARs in the frontline sqns in time of war using pilots crews and airframes from the headquarters sqn (899NAS), which always had 12 aircraft on strength and more pilots than planes (the frontline sqns had five aircraft each but about 8 or pilots so airframes could spend more time in the air after a given pilot had reached his maximum hours for the day). This plan was carried out in 82 when 899 gave up seven aircraft and pilots to 800NAS aboard Hermes and three more to 801 aboard Invincible. The remaining four aircraft plus four more drawn from storage were used to stand up a third frontline sqn, 809NAS which flew down to the Task Force a few weeks later and on arrival reinforced the other two sqns, four each to 800 and 801. After the war plans were announced to increase sqn size in peacetime to 8 aircraft each but this was done incrementally over a couple of years. Other Harrier operators such as Spain and Italy went with the twelve aircraft sqn size from the start to get maximum 'bang for buck', mainly because they didn't have historic opposition from their Air Force to deal with.
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currently no Fifth gens have 2 seaters. F22 Originally planed a F22B but it was cut to reduce cost this got carried over into F35.
The Russians and Chinese followed suit in SU57 and J20 then again J31. The Indians In their bid for HAL FGFA wanted 2 seaters but so far Vaperwear. The Israelis for a time talked about looking into a 2 seater F35 variant but again nothing yet.
The Russians and Chinese followed suit in SU57 and J20 then again J31. The Indians In their bid for HAL FGFA wanted 2 seaters but so far Vaperwear. The Israelis for a time talked about looking into a 2 seater F35 variant but again nothing yet.
Jura The idiot
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LOL what for? I repeatedly saw stuff how an F-35 pilot would control several combat drones (according to me that's a way how to suffer a heart attack in the cockpit)