How useful/relevant do you think is the JH-7 compared to J-11B when it comes to anti-ship and land-attack missile truck role?
How long do you think they will keep the JH-7 if they have unique capabilities that other planes do not have.
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How useful/relevant do you think is the JH-7 compared to J-11B when it comes to anti-ship and land-attack missile truck role?
How long do you think they will keep the JH-7 if they have unique capabilities that other planes do not have.
J-11B can’t drop guided air to surface munitions.
Technically there's nothing that JH-7/A can do from a strike/bomb truck perspective, which a J-16 cannot do... With of course the difference being that a J-16 is a J-16 (and thus a heavyweight, fully air to air capable, 4.5th generation airframe).
Whether they keep JH-7/As around for their full airframe lifespan will probably depend on how they view the future of their aerial strike capable platform fleet.
I.e. do JH-7/As need a direct airframe for airframe replacement (and is that best done via J-16s or perhaps by giving some strike roles to J-20 family or J-35A), or will it be partly replaced by emergence of high end UCAVs (GJ-11, CCAs etc), or partly by H-6K family, or partly by future H-20, or a combination thereof?
Lots of way to skin this cat.
Comparing J-11B with JH-7/A doesn't make sense. J-11B is not capable of guided air to surface strikes and there is no indication they are interested in giving it such a role.
For sure, a plane that's built ground-up with new materials and systems is going to be more advanced than one that's just upgraded. My point wasn't about being more advanced; just the advantages of a larger airframe. The PLA isn't going to want to perform maritime missions with a J-10 but a J-11 would be just fine.
The J-10C also has newer avionics that support the PL-10 and PL-15 missiles. It also is built with composites and has a reduced RCS, and I don't think the J-10B has any of that.
Sure, though my replies are directed to your original post #305 which said that an upgraded J-11BG would be a "full blown 4.5th gen fighter" and "probably be a bit more potent than J-10C".
I am saying that a J-11BG should not be in the same type of 4.5th gen as J-10C/J-16/J-15T.
And in terms of technological sophistication and associated capabilities, J-11BG is not likely to be more "potent" than J-10C.
Of course if one is talking about range or combat radius, then yes a J-11BG is better than J-10C in that respect... But that's like saying a J-11B or J-11A or Su-27SK has a longer range or combat radius than J-10C -- it is because they are just inherently a larger airframe -- however, they are certainly not more "potent".
I would have retired the JH-7/A already. Just the fact it uses a weird engine that no other in service aircraft in the PLA uses is bad enough. Then there is the fact the whole thing is obsolete. Basically 3.5 generation. With 400x J-16s you would think they would have put this thing to pasture already. But the PLA never retires anything before the airframe expired to its end of life.
I thought all 4th gen fighters have multi-role capability. That is one of the key highlights of 4th gen fighters. J-11B being relatively newer 4th gen, only entering service in 2008, I would assume it should be able to fire cruise missiles and also carry JDAM type bombs. J-11B should also be able carry targeting pods for ground strike roles.
4th gen fighters being so versatile is the key reason why air forces do not have dedicated tactical bombers anymore. Even China got rid of Q-5s and did not replace it with anything else.
B has a PESA and does not have the ECM suite of the J-10Cs.
Nope. You are incorrect.
J-11B does not have any current built in precision strike capabilities.
In theory they could upgrade J-11B to do so; it'll just require a minor avionics upgrade and ensuring that the weapons stations are able to accommodate the weapons and separations testing.
But J-11B family as is, does not have precision strike/multirole capability.
J-11B was kinda rushed because it needed to hit a deadline (Chen Shuibian potentially stirring up sh*t) so that China has a heavy fighter with good BVR capabilities if worst comes to worst. Maybe they have added guided air to surface in later upgrades (after all, J-15 vanilla uses same radar) but it is not a priority when there are so many J-16.