Yes, but the CCP was also unprecedented in its efficiency to set China's progress back a few decades before the reforms of the Deng era. There is fear not just in the West, but also among the Chinese I've talked with that the Xi clique is undoing many of the reforms that made China's economic miracle possible.
A reappraisal of China's semiconductor strategy
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Yes, but the CCP was also unprecedented in its efficiency to set China's progress back a few decades before the reforms of the Deng era. There is fear not just in the West, but also among the Chinese I've talked with that the Xi clique is undoing many of the reforms that made China's economic miracle possible.
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sorry then
Today at 10:03 AM I tried to express his (tidalwave) posts are like visceral and yours like intellectual, so it's fun to read them both when you two clash
And I thought you were American? I used "we" since as much as the EU would like to stay out of this, it cannot afford to be an innocent bystander due to its dependence on both the US and China. And if forced to choose sides, it should not come to anyone's surprise that ultimately our allegiance lies with the US.
That's where I disagree. Mutual economic dependence goes a long way in staving off military conflicts. Remove that from the equation, and it suddenly becomes much more palatable to escalate things militarily. I don't see how that could possibly be to China's advantage.
I've noticed that a lot of Eastern Europeans (especially those from countries that have antagonistic historical relationships with Russia) who fled the Soviet Union become pro-Western zealots and hyper anti-communists. It's like they traded one religion for another. I'd like to let you in on something while you're LOLing and "now reading": China isn't communist, at least not in any sense you would understand. Neither were the governments you fled communist, they were just failures.
The Chinese government is the farthest thing possible from being a failure.
I agree, but that's because Western governments are failures. The only reason the West has the power it does in the world is early industrialization. If we consider a hypothetical world where everyone is at the same level of development, the West would be the sub-Saharan Africa of that world.
I'd like to request that members like @Jura and @Brumby not post irrelevant "analysis" from Western business reporters who have the IQ of a gnat and the imagination of a toothbrush in my thread - it's not the "Trade War 2.0" thread. This thread is for discussing China's semiconductor strategy (and tech strategy more generally), specifically the patent invalidation idea I proposed in the OP. I will, however, make a comment on this:
In other words, their problem is that China is successfully developing and improving its people's standard of living; that's the "worsening business environment".
I think it's revealing of the profoundly anti-human attitudes of business leaders and those who carry their water. It's appalling that this kind of view is accepted as perfectly normal and passes without comment.
Neither should it come as a surprise to you should China treat the EU's intellectual property rights like toilet paper.
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OK let me check
News on China's scientific and technological development. https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/ne...-and-technological-development.t4270/page-482
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Apr 25, 2019
May 1, 2019
May 8, 2019
May 12, 2019
Tuesday at 8:09 PM
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Chinese Economics Thread https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/chinese-economics-thread.t3715/page-1001
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Wednesday at 9:04 PM
Wednesday at 9:36 PM
Thursday at 8:48 AM
Friday at 6:08 PM
Friday at 6:12 PM
Friday at 8:36 PM
Yesterday at 9:50 AM
I'm intrigued
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which of those would be a part of your assertion
"the constant stream of doom and gloom reports regarding china that you enthusiastically post"
?! EDIT now a thought occurred to me: did you perhaps confuse me with Brumby??
LOL and don't quit on me now, it took several minutes to link that stuff
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there's no such thing as
you of course may report a content to moderation though
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that's what you say, and here's what I had meant to post in Trade War With China thread before it got closed:
What killed US-China trade talks: A tale of two texts
- A difference of opinion over detail behind sudden shift from optimism to renewed hostilities
- Washington prefers to reveal what Beijing would conceal
The CCP hasn't set the Chinese progress back ever, on its own. CCP under Mao is never equal to CCP under Xi. Mao had unprecedented sway over both the public as well as the party as the founding father. His party support wasn't what made him uber powerful. His public support was. He knew it and his "Giant leap" was crafted perfectly to tap his overwhelming popularity within the masses to extract something meaningful for his nation. Very few dared to question him. Filled with the dream to energize their nation, a set of short sighted steps where taken by the "maoists" that'd ultimately come back to bite them.
Xi doesn't have that sway over the public. He may have the sway over the party BUT he is/was/never will be a Mao. Mao is a product of a different time.
What you are describing here, is quite the usual narrative that get fed to the masses by the media houses tasked with indoctrination - through Opinion columns ,special documentaries and whatnot. What these entities want is their folks to equate Xi Jingping with the likes of Maduro /Ayotolla Ali Khamenni etc. And it seems like they've dona good job too.
What is exactly the current state of China's fab equipment R&D.
There was news of a 10nm or 22 nm Lithography machine success. It is not clear to me if the novel lithography equipment that uses Double exposure actually is able to crack into 10 nm domain.
Is it 22nm or 10 nm?
Also, found this. Don't know if it has been posted before.
This talks about an etching machine developed by AMEC.
The same article introduces with the statement that China's recent breakthrough regarding lithography (not etching) won't be commercially applicable.
" The machine, which realizes a 22nm maximum resolution of single exposure by 365nm wavelength, breaks limits of traditional lithographic resolution caused by light wavelength and traditional line pattern of lens’ numerical aperture. The equipment is worth between $1.45 million and $2.9 million which is less than 2% of EUV. Although the SP lithography machine breakthrough is significant, it can’t replace the current lithography machine because its limitation of special technologies which is not fit for mass production. "
There was news of a 10nm or 22 nm Lithography machine success. It is not clear to me if the novel lithography equipment that uses Double exposure actually is able to crack into 10 nm domain.
Is it 22nm or 10 nm?
Also, found this. Don't know if it has been posted before.
This talks about an etching machine developed by AMEC.
The same article introduces with the statement that China's recent breakthrough regarding lithography (not etching) won't be commercially applicable.
" The machine, which realizes a 22nm maximum resolution of single exposure by 365nm wavelength, breaks limits of traditional lithographic resolution caused by light wavelength and traditional line pattern of lens’ numerical aperture. The equipment is worth between $1.45 million and $2.9 million which is less than 2% of EUV. Although the SP lithography machine breakthrough is significant, it can’t replace the current lithography machine because its limitation of special technologies which is not fit for mass production. "
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