2026 Iran War Strategy and Analysis

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discspinner

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Stopping fight in Lebanon was always a precondition for ceasefire.
Iran has not re-opened the Strait of Hormuz. Oil prices are rising again.
US stipulated that no negotiations will take place without the strait fully re-opened
I would be very surprised if the ceasefire negotiations even take place this weekend.
 
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I'm right again...."ceasefire"....lol, US pushing marines in, weapons during this days (48hrs). Iran better prepared ballistics and drones. US is using this windows of "negotiations" in Islamabad to quickly stocked up and sent in munitions. The depleted interceptors stock is being hurriedly brought in. This ceasefire is basically, in the chess game, where Iranians having better chess pieces in good advantages position and if they continue the attack will completely checkmated and decimate Israel and all the US bases, positions further in the middle east. US calls a longer timeout, and crunch the next possible best move....means they uses this windows to quickly re-purpose their troops/forces....heavy shipments or arms are moving in, troops and forces
 
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iewgnem

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discspinner said:
Stopping fight in Lebanon was always a precondition for ceasefire.
Iran has not re-opened the Strait of Hormuz. Oil prices are rising again.
US stipulated that no negotiations will take place without the strait fully re-opened
I would be very surprised if the ceasefire negotiations even take place this weekend.
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What US stipulates doesn't matter because they've ceased fire against Iran without strait opened.
Iranian control over Persian Gulf is reality with or without ceasefire, as is Israel bombing Lebanon which will also happen with or without ceasefire.

Its been reported that Iran was not interested in the 2 week ceasefire even on their terms until China convinced them, IMO since everyone knows Israel and US has zero credibility, that US has no control over Israel and Trump personally has dementia, the only thing China could have offered to convince Iran are "reinforcements" during the 2 weeks that'll give them a bigger advantage when the fighting restarts.

People are too conditioned to take media reports at face value, it's evident now that Iran wasn't actually naive enough to forget Israel's nature and spent every day since 2025 preparing for the next war, and now they kicked US out of ME bases and control the Persian Gulf. For both side the purpose of the ceasefire is to restart fighting, neither side are actually interested in or expects anything to come out of it because both sides knows there can be no ceasefire so long as Israel exist.
 
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Laughable they argue over 10 points, 15 points, this point and that point. Why not just add 1 more point Lebanon into it, since already they are bombing each other. What is there so difficult to add 1 more points. Basically all this ceasefire nonsense is restocking of the munitions. For Israel, they can't chew gum and walk at the same time especially handling 3 fronts, the Iranians, Hezbollah north, the Houthis South.....with the ceasefire they got at least 1 side stop, the Houthis are irrelevant due lower tempo of strike each they sent out and manageable by the IDF. Problem with the North Hezbollahs more urgent as closer and direct ground threat. The military goal of obtaining water source from Litani River also for expanding Lebensraum living space and population to thrive for the Jewish people. As they say water is the source of all life especially in the middle east. It's a very important goal. Both water and Hezbollah are twin goals and of the highest priority. Since Israel manage to bring in US to try deindustrialized Iranians and got bloodied nose themselves, why not revert to their original war goals of eliminating the Hezbollah to the North and get to the river source. The entire excursion of involving the US into direct conflict with Iran, is just a luck try for several years already with different US administration, Israel got lucky they got the Trump administration this round............and they go for it. That's why you always hear the term, military goals, of 2 weeks, 3 weeks on the war with Iran. Israel is borrowing the strength of US to degrade Iranian industrial capacities and push it back for several decades. That's the war aim, hence the 2 weeks, 3 weeks ending you keep hearing about. Not about Uranium and all that nonsense.

The TRUE war goals of US and Israel "special military operation" and estimate operation

1. Degrade Iranian industrial capacity for war - Estimate time (3~4 weeks) You keep hearing this number.
2. Claim territory up to Litani River border and destroy Hezbollah along the ways - Estimate time ( 2~3 months).
3. Instigate regime change and population uprising, balkanization of Iran - Estimate time (>6 months) Long shot goal

Assumption, mission status
1. Capitulation strikes succeed thru good intel and internal spy.
2. Major industrial strikes half succeed thru good targeting, however missed many key components where key industries are buried deep underground
3. Population uprising mission fail, due reverse situation happening where population tend to round the flag when attacked. This boosted the regime and opposition against invaders

Missed or Overlook Risked
1. Decentralized defendsive strategy blunted decapitation strike
2. Iranian preparedness and thoroughness of counter attacking
3. Flawed weapons/missiles capabilities and stocks analysis by Pentagon/IDF
4. Asymetric warfare tactic employed, known quantity but still does it anyway
5. Assistance from hidden backers (Russia mostly, secondary China), known but unsure how deep. The false bonhomie between Putin and Trump, my good friend Xi means nothing
6. Drastic accuracy and improvement of Iranian weapons delivery system.....completely different from 12 days war
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You're completely forgetting how the entire western world is counting down to economic collapse from Iran starving them of fuel.

It's not in Israel's nature to process large scale or even medium term implications of their actions, if they had that ability they wouldn't have the history they do, but as much as Israel like to pretend they can just focus on expanding "living space" in Lebanon, right now the entire west is starving and they all blame Israel for it.
 
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iewgnem said:
What US stipulates doesn't matter because they've ceased fire against Iran without strait opened.
Iranian control over Persian Gulf is reality with or without ceasefire, as is Israel bombing Lebanon which will also happen with or without ceasefire.

Its been reported that Iran was not interested in the 2 week ceasefire even on their terms until China convinced them, IMO since everyone knows Israel and US has zero credibility, that US has no control over Israel and Trump personally has dementia, the only thing China could have offered to convince Iran are "reinforcements" during the 2 weeks that'll give them a bigger advantage when the fighting restarts.

People are too conditioned to take media reports at face value, it's evident now that Iran wasn't actually naive enough to forget Israel's nature and spent every day since 2025 preparing for the next war, and now they kicked US out of ME bases and control the Persian Gulf. For both side the purpose of the ceasefire is to restart fighting, neither side are actually interested in or expects anything to come out of it because both sides knows there can be no ceasefire so long as Israel exist.
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Not fighting the US is perfectly fine for Iran. Leverage was never militarily, but through control of Strait of Hormuz.
In fact, Iran benefits from not being pummeled right now.
Iran is making 2x oil revenue right now with strait still closed.
Netanyahu simply doesn’t care. Still Israel is issuing evacuation orders in Lebanon.
So right now, the biggest predicament is for Trump in the US, deciding whether or not to restart the fighting, or to concede to going to negotiations even though the US said it won’t unless the strait is reopened.
 
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Not fighting the US is perfectly fine for Iran. Leverage was never militarily, but through control of Strait of Hormuz.
In fact, Iran benefits from not being pummeled right now.
Iran is making 2x oil revenue right now with strait still closed.
Netanyahu simply doesn’t care. Still Israel is issuing evacuation orders in Lebanon.
So right now, the biggest predicament is for Trump in the US, deciding whether or not to restart the fighting, or to concede to going to negotiations even though the US said it won’t unless the strait is reopened.
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The only real issue since the start has been energy, including Iran taking out American ME bases which was arguably part of denying their ability to challenge Iranian control of Persian Gulf, as much as it was to degrade western ability to strike Iran.

Anyone can see on ship tracker that almost nothing besides Iranian ships are passing through the strait, and as of this week the last tanker that set sail before Feb 28 has arrived in Europe, which means from this point out the west is drawing down reserves until they break, and that's not considering they've been already releasing reserves to suppress prices.

So crux of the matter is the current status quo is not sustainable for the west, Iran is physically imposing crippling sanctions on the collective west and they can't simply have ceasefire while letting Israel do what they want. Their only real choices are to
1 - Somehow overcome Iranian defences, what they've been trying for the last 40 days, what Trump is threatening NATO to do and what they believe the ceasefire will allow them to regroup and try again.
2 - Reign in Israel, which is the only thing on Iran's 10 point demand that's not already physical reality. It's not impossible but will take a long time and a lot more fighting before the pain reach a point for the west to even try it, then fail.
3 - Deal with economic consequences of living with persistent fuel shortage.

If COVID is any indication they will find a way to arrive at the worst combination of the above because they're not willing or able to commit to any solution.
 
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iewgnem said:
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Its been reported that Iran was not interested in the 2 week ceasefire even on their terms until China convinced them, IMO since everyone knows Israel and US has zero credibility, that US has no control over Israel and Trump personally has dementia, the only thing China could have offered to convince Iran are "reinforcements" during the 2 weeks that'll give them a bigger advantage when the fighting restarts.
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There is one reason I like about China in not involved with alliances, siding this or that side policies. This avoid unnecessary entanglement not of your own making and picking the shits of others that they created. Also expending political capital like this is a negative and waste of time by China. We know some countries are just untrustworthy and their pledges are not worth or tantamount to anything, especially US repeated, I mean, a bullier who used to get everything why would they want want to keep their promises because you told them so. What a total waste of time here. Fortunately even this minor mistake, China still has the political capital and trust by the Iranians even with this minor blemishes. You have the nut cases in charge in Pakistan who their egos sometimes goes to their head in demanding this and that, just with a little victory over the Indians. You may think you sits on the table, but could be just a diner bottom food picker. Also this little recalcitrant country call Israel, whose areas is just 1/5th of the size of Cuba should know their place and position in this world. You parasitic of nature thinking clinging on the British empire, then American empire allows you to do whatever you want in the middle east, and now even wants to click on the Indian Chicken Masala empire to ensure your next survival after your former host US fallen. You think you are like a Toxoplasma Gondi parasites looking for next host to cling into and control their behaviors to serve your parasitic purposes. This bunch of coconuts in Washington administration now playing all these petty games of ceasefire. Just rein in your AI model guy in Israel or whomever still creating that avatar to behave or no weapons and munition deliveries will be sent from Washington next....that UK guy Stammer please grow a pair and stop that munition flight transit. This little rascals of Brits currently in charge still thinking of the old glory days, should wake the hell up, this is not your board pieces of a game anymore. As punishment, I suggest a couple of IRGC commanders still having some stocks on cluster, hypersonic, fired 20 ballistics and 300 drones with your Hezbollahs frens another 50 rockets fire straight into Tel Aviv with no targets just random blasting for the fun of it and then get back to the ceasefire deal......at least both sides fired enuff....then wait for the next tweet from Trump and the AI model of a Nentayahu appears again and see what they say....
 
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Now many people are angry at China because they think China capitulated to Trump’s threats and pressured Iran to negotiate.
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Because these people believed US and Israeli propaganda. US achieved their objective of portraying defeat of Iran, capitulation of China, betrayal of China to Iran, win of US. Haven't people learnt anything from the past years of Trump propaganda?

Don't people have any memory of Biden's trick of Russia and China about Ukrain? China is part of it, so China is as evil as Russia. Whenever there is a pause of China's shipment of oil from Russia, it must be China capitulated to Biden's pressure and betrayed Russia. What do we see now?

Don't people have any memory of Obama's trick of NK/China? It goes like China owns NK therefor China must have pressed NK for anything that US "won", China must had obeyed US order, China must have betrayed NK. What do we see now? NK's FM is soon to meet Wang Yi. China's FM spokeperson referred to western reporter's "NK missile launch" as "flying object", NOT missile and weapon.

It is a simple and CHILDISH trick. Even if it is difficult for someone to comprehend shouldn't people at least have a memory long enough to remember what just happened since 2020?
 
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Israel will begin negotiations with Lebanon to disarm Hezbolah.

Following a call from Trump, Netanyahu orders the start of negotiations with Beirut, and a Lebanese source reveals the details.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced on Thursday that he had instructed his cabinet to begin peace talks with Lebanon, including the disarmament of Hezbollah. A Lebanese official source told Al Jazeera that former ambassador Simon Karam would head Lebanon's delegation to the negotiations, which are reportedly scheduled to take place in Washington next Tuesday.

Netanyahu said in a statement: "In light of repeated Lebanese demands to open direct negotiations with Israel, I instructed the Security Cabinet yesterday to begin direct negotiations with Lebanon as soon as possible. The negotiations will focus on the disarmament of Hezbollah and the establishment of peaceful relations between Israel and Lebanon."

According to Netanyahu's statement, "Israel appreciates Lebanese Prime Minister Nawaf Salam's call today for Beirut to be demilitarized."

Following this statement, Israel's Channel 14 quoted a source as saying that "the negotiations with Lebanon will take place under fire, and we are preparing for continued attacks." The same channel then quoted Defense Minister Yisrael Katz as saying that "the negotiations with Lebanon will proceed while the fighting continues."

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Israel sees this as a golden opportunity to disarm Hezbollah.

when the Shia population of Lebanon looks at Iran and sees they are not attacking Israel while Lebanon get's pummelled. more parts of this population starts supporting the idea of disarming Hezbollah seeing them more as a liability than an asset.

Hezbollah will be under increasing pressure from the Lebanese population to disarm and decouple from Iran and the "axis of resistance".

on the other hand we have the Ayatollah saying all the fronts are unified:

Mojtaba Khamenei on the 40th Day of Mourning for His Father: Iran Does Not Seek War and Will Not Relinquish Its Rights

A message from Iranian Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei on the 40th day since the assassination of former Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei:

Iran is determined to avenge its late Supreme Leader and its martyrs.

Iran does not seek war, but it will not relinquish its rights.

The arrogant powers of the world revealed their true nature when they killed our children.

Our armed forces turned the war into a great victory despite the damage and blows inflicted by the enemy.

We say to our neighbors: You are witnessing a miracle, so be on the right side and beware of the enemy's false promises. We await a suitable response from our southern neighbors so that we may demonstrate our brotherhood to them.

Iran considers all resistance fronts to be a unified entity.

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his declaration that all the fronts are unified could either be him just saying it to dissuade Hezbollah from agreeing to disarm without Iran actually having any intention of retaliating against Israel for the attacks on Lebanon.

or there is a 10% chance that Iran is preparing something big so they need this time of peace on Iranian land to prepare whatever it is that they are preparing before restarting the war.
 
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