2025 Victory Day parade thread (workup, 3rd Sept)

[ACuriousPLAFan]

PLA watchers getting extremely spoiled this parade! Still waiting for the better photos of HQ-19 and HQ-29 though. I think the new IFV and tanks are interesting, but the reveal of a comprehensive system of ABM would do more to "flip the table" a bit.

China could troll the West by shortening their ZL (战略 Zhan Lue (strategic) code to just Z, so then in the parade you'll see rows and columns of strategic missile with massive Z painted on the TELs

Speaking of which - Apparently all their TELs use the "ZL" prefix. I suppose it refers to "Strategic" (战略, Zhan4 Lue4).

 

[Mmmeeeto]

PCL-191/PHL-16 and AA missile system

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

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Huh. Kinda hoping for a successor to the PHL-16 (if any) to show up instead.

 

[kkkka]

Huh. Kinda hoping for a successor to the PHL-16 (if any) to show up instead.

PHL-16 is world's most advanced MRL already, dont see the point to have a successor after just few years of service

 

[tamsen_ikard]

Huh. Kinda hoping for a successor to the PHL-16 (if any) to show up instead.

They need to boost up the numbers instead of coming up with new MLRS. They barely have 150 PHL-16 launchers now.

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

PHL-16 is world's most advanced MRL already, dont see the point to have a successor after just few years of service

I'm hoping for MLRS with new TBMs could comfortably cover much of the Ryukyu Islands from Shanghai. I don't think that's too much to ask for, especially considering the heights of which China's hypersonic missile technology have achieved in recent years.

Also, developing a successor platform is pretty much a certainty as it is the necessity of not just the PLAGF, but also the research and development institutes/departments responsible. It's only a matter of when they would come out.

They need to boost up the numbers instead of coming up with new MLRS. They barely have 150 PHL-16 launchers now.

I wouldn't trust those numbers for sure.

 

[kkkka]

I'm hoping for MLRS with new TBMs could comfortably cover much of the Ryukyu Islands from Shanghai. I don't think that's too much to ask for, especially considering the heights of which China's hypersonic missile technology has achieved in recent years.

Also, developing a successor platform is pretty much a certainty as necessity of not just the PLAGF, but also the research and development institutes/departments responsible. It's only a matter of when they would come out.



I wouldn't trust those numbers for sure.

China has thousands of SRBMs in store (DF15/16/17), they can cover the fisrt chain easily and the number is more than sufficient. I dont think they have an urgent need for such a TBM to be launched from MLRs. It is definitly possible tho, they may already have something in develop/testing, but I would say we will have their first appeal on Zhuhai airshow in the coming years instead of on a Vday prade.

 

[Little Otter]

As it seems there was also a new Long-Range stealthy Cruise missile shown today

Any photo? I save the YJ-XX from the navy, but anything like stealth cruise Misael tbh

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

China has thousands of SRBMs in store (DF15/16/17), they can cover the fisrt chain easily and the number is more than sufficient. I dont think they have an urgent need for such a TBM to be launched from MLRs. It is definitly possible tho, they may already have something in develop/testing, but I would say we will have their first appeal on Zhuhai airshow in the coming years instead of on a Vday prade.

DF-15 is getting retired (if not already, or only remaining in the training brigades to clear up the remaining stockpiles).

The DF-16 and DF-17 certainly aren't cheap. This is apart from the facts where the DF-17:
1. Can actually strike father away (and potentially reaching some parts of the 2IC), and
2. Has many other more important targets to strike farther away.

In fact, I'd say that the DF-17 (and the DF-16 to a certain degree) should be reserved for more critical targets along the Ryukyu Island Chain + Taiwan, and let the TBMs + cruise missiles do the heavy work for ground-based bombardment missions.

In addition, there's the Xizang frontier to consider as well.

 

[AsuraGodFiend]

https://imgur.com/a/dBeg7D4

Wth is this