You are wrong. Their mistake was not to suck up to the US in and after the revolution. Declaring America their number one enemy was the mistake, without it they would be just an other Oil country on the Persiangulf
2025 Israel - Iranian conflict
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bro, you still don't get it. Iran doesn't get to offer that. If US is truly that strong then the US can force the change in foreign policy on Iran. It doesn't need Iran to do that. It doesn't need to even grant the concession of allowing Iranian leaders to remain in power or even to live.
Iran can't surrender because if it does, it has nothing to offer, not even giving up resistance because the act of surrender itself means your will to resist is 0.
I repeat what I said:
American diplomatic credibility is being systematically undermined:
1 - The Russians were deceived with an offer of peace negotiations when their fleet of strategic bombers was attacked by surprise by a brilliant operation by the SBU
2 - The Iranians were deceived not once but twice, first when they were still in negotiations and were attacked by Israel before the deadline for negotiations, then Trump 48 hours ago said that he would evaluate in two weeks whether or not to attack Iran, and Marco Rubio also about non-intervention, and now they are attacking Iran, deceiving the Iranians with the two-week deadline.
Any state that thinks it can reach an agreement with the Americans and expects them to comply, I'm sorry, but you are being deceived and made a fool of, and this also applies to China, but I will not touch on this, because I do not want to be blocked in the topic.
American diplomatic credibility is being systematically undermined:
1 - The Russians were deceived with an offer of peace negotiations when their fleet of strategic bombers was attacked by surprise by a brilliant operation by the SBU
2 - The Iranians were deceived not once but twice, first when they were still in negotiations and were attacked by Israel before the deadline for negotiations, then Trump 48 hours ago said that he would evaluate in two weeks whether or not to attack Iran, and Marco Rubio also about non-intervention, and now they are attacking Iran, deceiving the Iranians with the two-week deadline.
Any state that thinks it can reach an agreement with the Americans and expects them to comply, I'm sorry, but you are being deceived and made a fool of, and this also applies to China, but I will not touch on this, because I do not want to be blocked in the topic.
The Perfidious Albion thaught them well
The lady speaking is clearly African. Also, for the last 40 years Iran has opposed American foreign policy more than almost anyone. Certainly more than Pakistan for example. There are many Iranians who have weird ethnocentrism but they are not the majority of the government and to be honest, your comment is an emotional generalization that makes you more like the subset of Iranians you dislike.
Honestly, it looks like Trump is coping out. I have to admit, he’s a bit smarter than I gave him credit for.
He’s out there claiming “tremendous world-leading damage”, yet there’s zero evidence for any of it. That’s clearly just a face-saving move to make it look like he did something, while in reality he’s basically suing for peace in the same breath and begging Iran to stop pounding Israel.
And here’s the kicker, now that he declared Iran’s nuclear infrastructure “completely destroyed,” Iran can just quietly keep operating and expanding it behind the scenes, with no U.S. justification to intervene again without looking like liars. Thanks, Trump.
At this point, it’s really up to Iran, how long do they want to keep smashing Israel? Because Trump’s clearly out of the game now.
He just wants the media attention, the image of being in control. He’s not really interested in actual strategic dominance on the ground. Same thing he did with the Houthis, made noise, then backed off and sued for peace once things got real.
Weirdly enough, this gives me a bit of hope. Maybe this shows even he knows America doesn’t have the capacity for real confrontation anymore.
Now the spotlight’s fully on Israel. I have no idea what they’ll do next, because their entire defense model just got exposed. They weren’t ready, and Iran came out of this more unified and confident than ever.
Just like Putin’s approval rating shot up after the West tried to "collapse" Russia in 2022, the same thing is happening with Khamenei. Wouldn’t be surprised if they try to assassinate him next, honestly. I hope he understands now just how far they’re willing to go.
But ironically, this entire situation has actually been phenomenal for Iran’s regime.
They’ve spent years trying to root out internal spies and corrosive elements, and now people are literally handing them over on a silver platter. Western-backed liberals and influencers in Iran? Basically erased overnight. That entire “Westernization” project just died.
Once again, like I always say, everything the Westoids do these days backfires massively on the ground. They trade away their long-term strategic position just to score a temporary propaganda headline.
Same goes for Israel, they're just another Westoid project collapsing in real time.
He’s out there claiming “tremendous world-leading damage”, yet there’s zero evidence for any of it. That’s clearly just a face-saving move to make it look like he did something, while in reality he’s basically suing for peace in the same breath and begging Iran to stop pounding Israel.
And here’s the kicker, now that he declared Iran’s nuclear infrastructure “completely destroyed,” Iran can just quietly keep operating and expanding it behind the scenes, with no U.S. justification to intervene again without looking like liars. Thanks, Trump.
At this point, it’s really up to Iran, how long do they want to keep smashing Israel? Because Trump’s clearly out of the game now.
He just wants the media attention, the image of being in control. He’s not really interested in actual strategic dominance on the ground. Same thing he did with the Houthis, made noise, then backed off and sued for peace once things got real.
Weirdly enough, this gives me a bit of hope. Maybe this shows even he knows America doesn’t have the capacity for real confrontation anymore.
Now the spotlight’s fully on Israel. I have no idea what they’ll do next, because their entire defense model just got exposed. They weren’t ready, and Iran came out of this more unified and confident than ever.
Just like Putin’s approval rating shot up after the West tried to "collapse" Russia in 2022, the same thing is happening with Khamenei. Wouldn’t be surprised if they try to assassinate him next, honestly. I hope he understands now just how far they’re willing to go.
But ironically, this entire situation has actually been phenomenal for Iran’s regime.
They’ve spent years trying to root out internal spies and corrosive elements, and now people are literally handing them over on a silver platter. Western-backed liberals and influencers in Iran? Basically erased overnight. That entire “Westernization” project just died.
Once again, like I always say, everything the Westoids do these days backfires massively on the ground. They trade away their long-term strategic position just to score a temporary propaganda headline.
Same goes for Israel, they're just another Westoid project collapsing in real time.
Brb getting eye bleach
I would count it as 1 deception, they knew about this 2nd one, Multiple iranian officials had said this was just another deception.They knew the attack was coming as they even covered the entrance's themselves.
If Israeli intelligence assesses that the Fordow program has not been eliminated as a threat to Israel, this is unlikely to happen. Netanyahu will once again put pressure to attack the facilities again and include the Americans in the attack as happened yesterday. Make no mistake, Trump is being controlled by Israel.
And as I have said before in this thread, never doubt the stupidity of Donald J. Trump!!! A situation is never so bad that DJT can make it worse.