2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

AlexYe

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The logical justification is that Netanyahu would rather start WW3 and drag Israel(and the US with it) down than go to jail. If I recall correctly, the day he attacked Iran, there was to be a vote in the Knesset to disband the government or something along those lines.
Yep it was next day and they later delayed it by a week, and its going to be a week soon so....
 

LCR34

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Weird how they don’t used centralized air conditioning.
I used to be in HVAC line. Split units for hospital make sense in:
1. Eliminate needs for HEPA grade filters / UV devices at AHU / air filters.
2. Eliminate ducting (air delivery system) also prevents spread of airborne diseases.
3. Ease of maintenance, no need to have pump/chiller room etc.
4. Economical as unused room can be turn off, whereas chillers have higher consumption even at min flow.

I'll stop here to prevent derailment of thread.
 

Helius

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Some images showing F-35I Adir and other IAF aircraft being refueled.

The IAF reported today that since the start of Operation Rising Lion, more than 600 aerial refueling operations have been carried out. 600 operations in just 5 days gives us an idea of the intensity of the air operations that Israel is carrying out against Iran!

Just to give you some context, the distance between the borders of Israel and Iran is about 1,000 km in a straight line, however, the fighters have to maneuver in airspace that, although relatively safe, is still contested. In addition, the fighters take off with their maximum bomb load, which ends up reducing their fuel carrying capacity.
600 refuellings over 5 days is 120 average refuellings per day, to and fro, meaning on average 60 sorties per day... bit of a far cry from the claimed "200-strong attack force".

Still, suppose the IAF blew their load right away, that means 400 refuellings had already been conducted on the first day, leaving the remaining 200 refuellings happening over the subsequent 4-day period (i.e. 50 refuellings per day), averaging only 25 sorties per day.
 

Sinnavuuty

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600 refuellings over 5 days is 120 average refuellings per day, to and fro, meaning on average 60 sorties per day... bit of a far cry from the claimed "200-strong attack force".

Still, suppose the IAF blew their load right away, that means 400 refuellings had already been conducted on the first day, leaving the remaining 200 refuellings happening over the subsequent 4-day period (i.e. 50 refuellings per day), averaging only 25 sorties per day.
That's how I calculate it too. The first two days were the most intense days for the IAF, but then the activity decreased to the point where Israel shouted at the Americans to start getting involved, because the IAF is clearly prevented from carrying out major strikes against Iran because of geography, logistics prevents them from achieving their objectives.

They cannot maintain this scale of operations for more than two weeks, at some point the activity will decrease, but we also cannot be sure how much these strikes have affected Iran's ability to retaliate.
 

GulfLander

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Bibi's Mossad and Modi's India intelligence agencies have been deeply embedded in Iranian cities for years. A gigantic network of agents and sleeper cells. Probably that is why the CIA was able to track Iran procurement networks and transactions. The fact that the Iranians didn't see this early is incredible.

Curious what lran reaction abt this, they hav given rights of the Chambahar Port to lndia, seem by some media as "counterbalancing" gwadar/cpec? lndia and lran also have the central asia route thing.. Will it be affected?
 

abc123

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600 refuellings over 5 days is 120 average refuellings per day, to and fro, meaning on average 60 sorties per day... bit of a far cry from the claimed "200-strong attack force".

Still, suppose the IAF blew their load right away, that means 400 refuellings had already been conducted on the first day, leaving the remaining 200 refuellings happening over the subsequent 4-day period (i.e. 50 refuellings per day), averaging only 25 sorties per day.

Well, that seems like what really happened, at least to me. First day or two IAF 70- 80% of action.
 

zyklon

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There are no air bases with runways prepared for operations with fighters and large aircraft.

Considering the scale of the American military footprint within de jure Syria, how exactly do you think American forces and bases are being resupplied without runways capable of receiving C-130s, if not C-17s?

Moreover,
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The US-backed Syrian Free Army says it has been working to secure and protect the Al Seen Military Airbase in Syria. “Our teams continue to work at Al-Seen Airport to secure it and protect it from sabotage. We will work day and night to protect civilians and prevent ISIS from seizing weapons,” the SFA said in a statement on May 17.

Wonder what this could be for . . . :rolleyes:

Bibi's Mossad and Modi's India intelligence agencies have been deeply embedded in Iranian cities for years. A gigantic network of agents and sleeper cells. Probably that is why the CIA was able to track Iran procurement networks and transactions. The fact that the Iranians didn't see this early is incredible.


While there's definitely cooperation between the Indian and Israeli intelligence communities, it's hard to imagine Mossad trusting RAW enough (or vice versa) to conduct joint operations inside Iran at the reported scale.

What's more likely is that the Israelis are employing Indian "contractors" as cost effective and expendable assets inside Iran, as they have
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