That's why even netanyahu (oh my god, even him) tried to persuade the iranian population to topple the regime. i don't think they will succeed. people may hate the goverment, but they definitely don't like israel.
2025 Israel - Iranian conflict
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When we hear Iranian politicians talking about ceasefires, it's really sounding less like smart diplomatic play to make themselves look like victims, and more like a not-significant number of people in power in Iran really want the war to end and are glad Israel are weakening the IRGC.
Some people have gone mad I think, to me it’s always about letting things take time to happen. People said that the whole Syria thing was such a massive win for the west, how it is a game changer but really what did it honestly accomplish other then damaging certain countries reputation. In all honesty, like then, like in Ukraine where some like to criticise Russia on not going in guns blazing, a defeat is seldom the end of the story. Think on this, this is the first time Iran has done real damage against Israel the world cannot ignore. And given Israel started this fight and Iran hasn’t stopped shooting missiles as Israel as of yet, I don’t believe for a second that Israel is going to win this fight so easily as some have already assumed. But let’s wait a bit for the results to show and try to ignore some of the more hardline voices here, they will disappear in the coming weeks when the full extent of the damage is known and while Iran did take real damage, I can almost be positive that the kind of damage to Israel, but reputation, defence and society wise is bound to be greater.
We need to understand that the so called Iranian ministers are appointed by the President who is a reformist. The real rulers of Iran are the Islamic leaders and the IRGC. Iran has a president for some day to day function but the real decisions are made by the IRGC and islamic leaders. I am not surprized that the so called reformists are talking about ceasefire. This is their central foreign policy goal, which is to make a deal with the US.
I understand this line of thought, but it's uncomfortably close to what Hezbollah was thinking about saving their missile stockpiles, until it's too late.
To be fair Syria only recently fell. The real effects may come only after things are totally established. The same would apply to Iran but when the effects are finally realized, it might be too late.
Anyway this is purely hypothetical and we are still only a few days into the war so lets just see how Iran will hold out.
Hezbollah still has a huge stockpile, they still control Southern Lebanon. So, no even Hezbollah is not done. They took a ceasefire, they didn't surrender. Hamas is also still standing, BTW
