2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

PLAwatcher12

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There is no evidence majority got intercepted. Besides, it would make no sense if interception rate is very low and still intercept most of them. Near the end there is no interception happening at all, which suggest interceptors were running critically low.
The interception rate generally wasn’t low, most of the videos posted are impacts that doesn’t mean most hit. It’s very unlikely that there was more than 250 impacts of Iran missiles in Israel
 

RottenPanzer

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Not a definitive source by any means but let's hope it's true. Should have been done years ago but better late than never.

The question is, would China willing for an eventual licensing production and transfer of technology of its J-10 to Iran?

Buying only the aircrafts without its more manufacturing structure wouldn't be enough for Iran wise.
 

Godswill

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Iran did make a lot of mistakes, top among them is allowing western sympathizers to run amock at detriment of proper alignment with allied powers, and failure at investing in internal security and counter-espionage.

Art of War 101: you must secure yourself from defeat first then seek victory, Iran still managed to do that better than Israel and that's ultimately how they prevailed, but Iran can do a lot better, because Israel will 100% try again, maybe even within 6 month.
We don’t know for sure, but the damage was likely only enough to seal the entrances, the mountain rock is too thick for those bunker busters to reach the core of the facility. Either way, Iran moved whatever they needed out of the facility days prior. Lots of work is needed to get the facility back up and running I’m sure, but it’ll enjoy more support with the Iranian people becoming more supportive of a nuclear program.
That's a lot of copium or wishful thinking to believe Iran prevailed and these bunker busters only damaged the entrance.
 

CMP

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Bunker busters dig 200ft of soft earth, those bunkers were under 3000ft of hard rock. You the one be coping.
Dunning-Kruger effect is always hilarious to view in real time. That someone cannot understand there is a significant difference between the hardness of soil and granite/other hard materials really speaks to the failure of an average Western education.
 

gelgoog

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Maybe the Natanz underground facility suffered some damage, the facility is less deep and under softer ground, but I doubt Fordow was damaged.
 

obj 705A

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The question is, would China willing for an eventual licensing production and transfer of technology of its J-10 to Iran?

Buying only the aircrafts without its more manufacturing structure wouldn't be enough for Iran wise.
the US/Israel are using mainly 5th gen fighters and bombers against Iran.
4th gen fighters like the J-10 would be useless and a waste of money. money which could be used to buy better airdefence or produce more missiles.
the only aircraft worth buying would be the J-35. however the J-35 is still in it's infancy production wise (PLAAF & PLAN will be top priority for J-35 acquistion) and will take several years to be ready for export to Iran while the need for more weaponry is urgent. on top of that even if Iran accumulates enough money to buy it it is highly unlikely China will sell it in order not to piss off the GCC/US/Israel.
 
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