2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

vincent

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the B-2 strike on Iran is first and foremost a massive embarassment for Russia. the fact that the B-2 flew over Iran means Russia did not have the courage to provide Iran with the necessary SAM to take out the bombers.
Russia is still this hesitant and afraid of pissing off the zionists even after the US provided all this weaponry and info to Ukraine to kill dozens of thousands of Russians on top of targeting Russian strategic bombers and sinking the Moskva.
Iran is on it's own against the entire west.
Iran a nation of 90 million that has been under sanctions for the past 4 decades cannot possibly survive on it's own against the collective might of the west.
Iran should learn from this mistake. realize that becoming an ally of eastern countries is foolish. and should offer the US a complete change in foreign policy in favor of the west. and if the idea of becoming an ally of the Zionists is too embarassing for Khammenei then he should voluntarily step down and install some one friendly towards the west in his place.
Get your facts straight

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ON HELPING IRAN WITH WEAPONS:

"We once offered our Iranian friends to work in the field of air defence systems, but our partners didn't show much interest then, and that's it. As for the agreement you mentioned about the strategic partnership, there are no articles related to the defence sphere... And thirdly, our Iranian friends don't even ask us to do this. So there's practically nothing to discuss."

"Our proposal was to create a system, not separate supplies, but a system. We eventually discussed this once, but the Iranian side didn't show much interest in it, and it all died down. As for individual deliveries, yes, of course, we carried out these deliveries at one time. This has nothing to do with today's crisis. It was what is called regular cooperation in the military-technical sphere. And within the framework of international norms."
 

vincent

Grumpy Old Man
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Why are you inventing things? Iran all the time tried to reach out for Russian and Chinese weapon but no deal disclosed because of sanctions. Event this S400 purchase delayed many years and downgraded to an Antey 2500.
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ON HELPING IRAN WITH WEAPONS:

"We once offered our Iranian friends to work in the field of air defence systems, but our partners didn't show much interest then, and that's it. As for the agreement you mentioned about the strategic partnership, there are no articles related to the defence sphere... And thirdly, our Iranian friends don't even ask us to do this. So there's practically nothing to discuss."

"Our proposal was to create a system, not separate supplies, but a system. We eventually discussed this once, but the Iranian side didn't show much interest in it, and it all died down. As for individual deliveries, yes, of course, we carried out these deliveries at one time. This has nothing to do with today's crisis. It was what is called regular cooperation in the military-technical sphere. And within the framework of international norms."
 

GulfLander

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Serb

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US urges China to dissuade Iran from closing Strait of Hormuz


Maybe tomorrow the U.S. will urge China to stop Iran from shutting down American military bases in the region too, who knows at this point.

Pretty sure Iran already knows exactly which ships are Chinese-linked, just like the Houthis did in the Red Sea. And wasn’t the U.S. supposed to be the world’s blue-water hegemon with the "strongest military"? Go ahead then, assert your supapowa, clean your mess, we’re waiting for it.

Honestly, China probably doesn’t care. Didn't they have a “deflation” problem instead? Maybe this will even help them by Westoid logic haha.

Better that than spiraling, parabolic inflation and a sovereign debt death trap like what the U.S. is staring down, now that nearly a quarter of global oil and gas trade is at risk and crude prices are set to explode. They are the biggest pain right now; CN has mild interest rates compared.
 
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ismellcopium

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Maybe tomorrow the U.S. will urge China to stop Iran from shutting down American military bases in the region too, who knows at this point.

Pretty sure Iran already knows exactly which ships are Chinese-linked, just like the Houthis did in the Red Sea. And wasn’t the U.S. supposed to be the world’s blue-water hegemon with the "strongest military"? Go ahead then, assert your supapowa, we’re waiting.

Honestly, China probably doesn’t care. Didn't they have a “deflation” problem instead? Maybe this will even help them by Westoid logic.

Better that than spiraling, parabolic inflation and a sovereign debt death trap like what the U.S. is staring down, now that nearly a quarter of global oil and gas trade is at risk and crude prices are set to explode. They are the biggest pin right now.
Yeah, it's not like Iran can't selectively shut down the Strait. Little marco is a retard.
 

GulfLander

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The United States would allow Iran to operate nuclear power plants but not enrich its own fuel, Secretary of State Marco Rubio said Sunday, after a wave of American strikes aimed to wipe out Iran's nuclear program.
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Iran's Atomic Energy Organization says it will not allow nuclear development to stop
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