09V/09VI (095/096) Nuclear Submarine Thread

[lcloo]

It makes things more difficult indeed but not impossible as it would still be possible to attack the submarine while going or out of the pens, and nowadays munitions can loiter waiting for the moment

That is why we have often seen photo and videos of type 056A doing escort duties whenever larger ships exit the port or naval bases. They will be sweeping the front of the routes taken by large ships, DDGs, aircraft carriers, LPD/LHA and submarines, on the way to the open sea.

 

[Blitzo]

Okay let's get back on topic now.

The discussion now is just about general submarine and naval basing rather than 09V/VI.

 

[00CuriousObserver]

A type 096 piece showing up in a wargame

 

[Tomboy]

A type 096 piece showing up in a wargame

It's probably nothing as Cute Orca said, you typically want SSBNs alone not running point defending your assets.

 

[sunnymaxi]

It's probably nothing as Cute Orca said, you typically want SSBNs alone not running point defending your assets.

you are right about operational requirements but the point is, they literally showed 096 piece in their wargame simulation. this is itself a big thing. looks like first Boat is not too far away.

 

[Neurosmith]

A type 096 piece showing up in a wargame

Friendly reminder that the PLAN refers to these boats as 09VI instead of using Arabic numerals. It's likely a nothingburger.

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

A dated tender document from 2023, indicating the 095 SSN is to use retractable bow planes instead of sail planes (which is most likely not news and is to be expected at this point). Posted by @雅库茨克行都指挥使 on Weibo.

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

SOYO on Weibo has suggested that the 096 SSBN could end up as a Sino-Triomphant, but with a shrouded propeller/pumpjet and an X-stern.



It has been stipulated that the following 3D model design of the SSBN with a hull diameter of 13.75 meters (made by SOYO himself) would be the worst design that the 096 SSBN could ever get (as in, we can expect the 096 SSBN to have better-looking designs than that).

 

[sunnymaxi]

SOYO on Weibo has suggested that the 096 SSBN could eventually end up as a Sino-Triomphant but with a shrouded propeller/pumpjet and an X-stern.

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It has been stipulated that the following 3D model design of the SSBN with a hull diameter of 13.75 meters (made by SOYO himself) would be the worst design that the 096 SSBN could ever get (as in, we can expect the 096 SSBN to have better-looking designs than that).

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i remember you shared one of research paper regarding SLBM launch hump. in which the design matches with Vanguard. lol

now this Triomphant class rumors.

the reality is, we hardly know anything about 096 design except one thing its hull diameter size. which could be around 13.5m to 14m. this is going to be a big Boat.

i don't know much about submarine. but this design looks more stealthy. maybe they are trying to minimize the hump visibility.


this design also matches with French next class SSBN

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[ACuriousPLAFan]

i remember you shared one of research paper regarding SLBM launch hump. in which the design matches with Vanguard. lol

now this Triomphant class rumors.

the reality is, we hardly know anything about 096 design except one thing its hull diameter size. which could be around 13.5m to 14m. this is going to be a big Boat.

i don't know much about submarine. but this design looks more stealthy. maybe they are trying to minimize the hump visibility.
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this design also matches with French next class SSBN

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That first photo which I've posted is basically the model of the Triomphant SSBN itself.

Though to put it simply, I believe that the Triomphant SSBN could be viewed as the Vanguard SSBN, but with the turtleback extended completely to the stern section of the submarine, thus making the SSBN much more streamlined (and its turtleback less pronounced).

Of course, I'd say that the 096 SSBN could go either way with what information we obtained thus far (though personally, I like the French design more).